Thread: Your favorite 223 powder

I use 2208 for 243, 303 and 223
Never chronied the loads, they work well, and thats all I ask for.

Hmm seeing these answers I might have to swap to 2208 from 2206h started reloading 223 now doing 308 and 223

Originally Posted by viper

interesting very few are using Hogoden, IMR, etc......nearly all running ADI

@viper everytime I buy powder from my LGS the owner says the same thing, even starting to give me samples of Hodgdon

Half of the hodgdon powders are ADI anyway. For what it's worth hodgdon owns Winchester and IMR powders so when you think about it, everybody runs hodgdon.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Aren't the small rifle primers a bit lose in the 308?

Not if hes using the likes of Lapua Match with the small primer pocket

Yeah it does surprise me SpecWeapon but as Beavis has pointed out and I was aware of it also one company are running under several different banners / trading names.
I wonder as end users ( consumers ) just how much marketing bullshit we are being feed.
Love to see an independent lab run some tests on this stuff...... wonder how much is the same shit in a different tin ?

In the case of hodgdon it really is same shit different can. Hodgdon is a marketing brand they don't the make powder themselves. Even some of the winchester and hodgdon powder is the same shit eg win 760 = H414

Originally Posted by GWH

Not if hes using the likes of Lapua Match with the small primer pocket

How bout that. Never seen them.
I'm more familiar with the garden variety.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Aren't the small rifle primers a bit lose in the 308?

Not in Lapua Palma cases which are made for small rifle primers.

Lapua is proud to introduce the new .308 Win. PALMA (Small Rifle Primer) case. Developed in conjunction with the US Palma team, the small rifle primer case is designed to deliver enhanced long-range accuracy for the most demanding competitive applications. Utilizing the well known consistency of the Small Rifle primers to best advantage, this combination has shown significantly reduced velocity spreads and standard deviations compared to .308 Win. cases using the standard large rifle primer.
Lapua 308win Palma Case

Originally Posted by Beavis

In the case of hodgdon it really is same shit different can. Hodgdon is a marketing brand they don't the make powder themselves. Even some of the winchester and hodgdon powder is the same shit eg win 760 = H414

Need to be careful - now that Hodgdon has taken over the marketing and control of the manufacturing of WW these 2 powders are the same shit, but going back a few years they were close equivalents but not exactly the same. So if anyone is using old batches of 760 best to use original Winchester loading data.

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Originally Posted by Shearer

Aren't the small rifle primers a bit lose in the 308?

Lapua Palma match brass has small primer pockets...

Another vote for BM2

65gn Gamekings - 3010fps, and under an inch at 100m

I got good results with 2208 with heavier projectiles, eg tmk 77grain. I have just tried BM2 for 55fmjs and 62fmjs and for the 62 at least I think its looking a bit better MOA but I am still testing. NB BM2 is supposed to be ideal for the 60~70grain range. For 55fmjs 2208 or BM2 seem about the same. From some people's posts like banana 2206H seems to be worth trying for 55gr. So far I think the BM2 meters better than 2208 and its the same price. I need to try BM2 behind SMK 69 and 77gr to see how they go but ADI's factory ready loaded 69gr SMK shot better than my own 69grTMK with 2208 suggesting a different powder might pay dividends.

Originally Posted by 7x64

Lapua Palma match brass has small primer pockets...

No, Lapua make both types, I have 400 of the the large rifle primer Lapua 308w match grade. From what I can read a small rifle primer gives a slightly better SD, but it has to be a warm/hot day or it wont work as well and even mis-fire.