Thread: New hilux

Originally Posted by gimp

Looks like my front lawn (except for the shitty vw parked on it), not challenging 4wding?

You should see the track up the hill
But yes not what you'd call challenging your either going up or off the side......
But how many people actually go 4wding beyond the capability of these vehicles?
Except maybe some of you South Island boys in those massive rivers.

Originally Posted by BRADS

But how many people actually go 4wding beyond the capability of these vehicles?
Except maybe some of you South Island boys in those massive rivers.

Yup and we're the ones complaining about the new vehicles...

(says a person most recently seen stuck up to the sills in a river in a 20 year old truck)

Originally Posted by gimp

Looks like my front lawn (except for the shitty vw parked on it), not challenging 4wding?

you need to tidy up your lawn.

This thread does make me laugh.... Everybody crying out for an older style ute that you can bash around anywhere etc etc.

Facts are thats not what 90% of the market wants, the new hiluxs/rangers/mazdas/VW's are all catered for the FARMER/tradesperson that has to sit in the thing for a job and drive to and from town for supplies, shift a mob of animals, tow a trailer with some posts on etc etc. People want to have some comfort doing it. If you want to go somewhere the ute won't you take the quad...

Maybe toyota could do a special run of "weekend warrior" utes based of the old style hilux that sound like you're going to blow the engine doing 90kmh, mrs doesnt want to go near, dirty dog box on the back. Will come standard with a pig on the bonnet, paint missing and a couple of dented panels for all you die hard 4x4 fans!

Most farmers don't use there utes on the farm anymore, they have quads and tractors and mule/side by sides for the farm.

I've been using 4wd's for work for about 7 years now in a couple of different jobs and I'd rather have a more capable 4wd that is worse on the road, even when the majority of k's are highway. It makes up for it when you actually need it

maybe I'm in the minority, wouldn't be the first time

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Most farmers don't use there utes on the farm anymore, they have quads and tractors and mule/side by sides for the farm.

I'd say most use there Utes on the farm on a regular basis at least in this area.
Particularly when it's freezing
I think Perazzi summed it up bloody well.

Look no further

Originally Posted by BRADS

You should see the track up the hill
But yes not what you'd call challenging your either going up or off the side......
But how many people actually go 4wding beyond the capability of these vehicles?
Except maybe some of you South Island boys in those massive rivers.

I haven't been up the Mathias/Rakaia/Wilberforce/Avoca for a few years now but I wouldn't be keen on taking anything too new and shiney up there

That mahindra has a one year corrosion warranty , wtf ! not aloud to be road registered either .

How dose the dmax compaire?

Originally Posted by Mauser308

D40 4x4 barely sneaks in under the rules for classifying a 4x4, and like the VW and the Toyota - they are either absolutely rubbish at towing heavy trailers or have overrated tow weights.

To be brutally honest, the D40 I drove on the road was utter bollocks. Factory suspension sucks and I have a funny feeling it's a cost cutting measure by all the manufacturers and it's being seriously shown up by the thing we in NZ pass off as a roading network...

The D40 2.5L and the Amarok are very very marginal when towing heavy trailers, I near popped a D40 450-series 4x4's auto box with a 2.2ton box trailer on a hill start onto SH27 out of SH2. Stalled four times, and needed to pull out in low box to get onto the road... My only experience of an Amarok when towing was similar. When you are dealing with heavy trailers, small engines big turbos and high-RPM 'performance figures' are not your friends. That's the only real point of difference and advantage with the T6 chassis Ranger and BT50 with the 3.2L engine - there simply isn't a replacement for displacement when you are using the ute as a tractor unit.

I don't see anything coming out on the market to knock the T6 chassis/3.2L Dura-torq motor combo off it's perch at the top of the sales ranks for the $$$. Even light trucks are going tiny motors, that's great overseas where you have either long flat roads or gradual hills but bugger me - they are near to useless in NZ.
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End of this summer we were chugging home in the Lancrusher up the East side of the Kopu-Hikuai road, and came across a long line of traffic, people waving us to slow down.....a twin cab D40 had dropped its guts towing a big fuck off Rayglass up the hill with 4 adults, cats n dogs, and all the end of summer hols gear on board.

I backed the '91 80 series up to him, hitched him up, stuck her in "D" and eased away. Towed the whole outfit to the top and hardly knew he was there.....had 475,000ks on her then.....just clicked over 495, and still runs like a Swiss watch.

Just saying.......

And yet when you hook a heavy boat on behind the 2.8 Colorado auto and put the boot in it will smoke the rear tires if traction control is off and scrabble for grip if on while accelerating like there is nothing hooked on behind at all.

or, god forbid, a bit of water in the diesel through your common rail engine

Originally Posted by BRADS

Some how a shitty Amarok and a couple of shaggers made it up the hill today you'd wonder how after reading this thread.
I drive a shagger daily on the farm and find it fine, maybe not as good as the old 02 off road but it doesn't take me an hour to get to town either......
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fully sick off road, bro.

Originally Posted by Mauser308

So will anything else. But, will it still be doing it in 2,000Km's time?

Biggest issue with the newer vehicles, they can be mechanically fine but one dodgy sensor stops it going back into 'road-mode' and you either park or limp home... They are great while they are new and all is well in the world, wait until the new lighter-weight wiring loom begins to get dodgy and see what happens.

Dude you just said the d40 and amarok wouldn't start on a hill and you had to use low box to get going, amarok hasn't even got a low box.

I would rather trust todays sensors plugs and looms than the lucas electronics in my old Austin a30 or Standard 8.