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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Jeepers there weight capacity is that low?
    Is that where the dragging 3 or 4 deer down a steep slope/over a bluff to get enough airspeed to lift the load came from?
    Yeah, shouldn't even be doing that but everyone does.
    How many times can ya stretch a rubber band before it breaks?

    Their blades are crap imo and every heavy load adds a little more stress to them and the drive train as they struggle in their plane of rotation.

    Saying someone has survived because of their skill until now, is neither here nor there and basically an insult to the pilots that have lost their lives in them. (Even tho I am sure that's not your intention.)
    Where does 20knts fit in?
    7000 deer is only a couple seasons on venison. I know Wayne has done a few more than that. Hope he has many more. But I am sure he would be the first to admit that the R22 doesn't leave much to chance.





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    VC: I think he was talking wind speed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6x47 View Post
    VC: I think he was talking wind speed..
    Ahhh that makes more sense........thats not much wind tho either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Ahhh that makes more sense........thats not much wind tho either.
    It is, when its up your bum (in any machine for that matter) while working animals.😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    It is, when its up your bum (in any machine for that matter) while working animals.��

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    What I was going for is 20knt "measured" at presumably the local airport could mean back eddy's, up and down drafts and funnels that turn 20knt into 40-60knt in places.

    presumably 20knt would be no problem at all over the likes of the outback of Australia(dust discounted) vs the mountains of NZ ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    What I was going for is 20knt "measured" at presumably the local airport could mean back eddy's, up and down drafts and funnels that turn 20knt into 40-60knt in places.

    presumably 20knt would be no problem at all over the likes of the outback of Australia(dust discounted) vs the mountains of NZ ?
    Yup. You're onto it.
    If the machine weather cocks when in balance, it is too windy to be in the mountains imo.
    A 20+ knt S easterly or Northerly was unpleasant to fly in when up some major South Westland valleys in a 22 or 44.
    We never hunted in anything like that as the animals were not about either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeRei View Post
    Wayne Pratt of Karamea caught/killed over 7000 deer in the early model Robbie and uses the R44. He is not dead. Phil Janssen was full time on venison recovery in an R22 for many years and is still alive.Rule of thumb is over 20knots in the R22 and you are in danger country. In the hands of a skilled pilot there is nothing wrong with the R22 including heli hunting. Just pick your pilot.
    Was thinking the same.
    Pratty was catching up to 50 reds a day in a 22 when they were in Argentina.

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    I've got/had a pretty awesome photo of Wayne using his Robbi to herd a big red stag towards my brother on the ground in Argentina.

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    Tell me you guys who travel the world flying helicopters, is there a problem with "mast bumping" with 22 and 44 Robbies elsewhere.

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    If you read the article posted above by Snowgrass it seems NZ has a very high rate compared to US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    If you read the article posted above by Snowgrass it seems NZ has a very high rate compared to US.
    We do have a high rate but the majority of our country is mountainous with a different climate compared to the US.

    The Yanks are right. If the machine is flown as per the manual when in turbulent conditions the machine will perform fine.

    I personally think there should be a max wind strength restriction placed on them in NZ.
    Sometimes you cant help or predict the wind strength on your flight route.
    But limiting the chances will reduce the events aside from poor handling.


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    That was worth a read,thanks T
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    Quote Originally Posted by stug View Post
    If you read the article posted above by Snowgrass it seems NZ has a very high rate compared to US.
    Aware of that but most more interested in the input from pilots who may have discussed it with other overseas pilots. Wondered if "pilot error" was being pushed there.

 

 

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