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    Decking screws/nail alternatives

    Has any one used the hidden or similar systems for holding decking down rather than screws/nails from the top?
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    Deck locks . I've never used them ,but am aware of them .
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    Mine has just been done with Stainless screws.
    Ask my builder who build it about the alternatives and he said "WTF you on about!!?" those are shite? Thats all I got sorry. haha
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    I'm not keen on the screw look, let alone per drilling and screwing over 2500 of them!! Lol
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    You can get a self drilling SS screw with two threads one into the joist the second short one pulls down the decking to the joist way to go
    Or just glue the bastard stuff down hahaha
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    I've found about 5 different products - just wondering if anyone has used them
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    I've got one of those QuikDrive screw drills if you end up going down that track - Coastal Fasteners or Anzor do the best prices for stainless screws, PM me if you wanna borrow it. box of 1000 screws was roughly 300 for Stainless IIRC?

    Usually with pine decking I spidernail 2 annular groove galv nailgun nails per joist and pre-drill holes at each end where it's likely to split then hammer some in at the ends only.

    Hardwood like seligna or kwila splits more. Glue won't do shit compared to a mechanical fixing. Council like s/s fixings but galv meets code and is quicker/cheaper.

    That decklock system looks ok but check your price per m square - the only thing that will piss you off in a few months after laying pine is linear shrinkage - the ends will pull back from each other. Hardwood won't do that but $$
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    Rob at Tauriko sawmill just out of Tauranga if you want hardwood decking. PM me if you want contact
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    Was looking at doing Kwila
    Rough calcs on stainless screws vs locks was about 70% more for locks
    I prefer the screw less look

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    Cheers. - will look into it
    I'll do a measure up soon as I get back and order timber
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    I seen a lock down job at the GCSB crèche and thought wow tidy job.................two months later it was bein replaced, ive heard they can have failure's its a new product so they will work out the kinks eventually.counter sink each screw and putty the holes all 2k of them.Im sure if you showed toby some reloading tips and feed him he would do it for you

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    Decking screws/nail alternatives

    The ones like the sharkteeth have been around in the US for 40? Yrs
    The sharkteeth are about the same price as screws
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    they havnt been here all that long I should say.Also the job I was talking about was plastic decking aswell,that polymer decking I think good for a crache as it dosnt splinter they screwed it down in the end.Who's doing your handrails if your deck has any?

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    Spanneres watch out if two story house deck . Make sure with supplier of hardwood that it will not leech ( red brown ) stain , down sides of house . It may sound anal but trust me I've seen it at its worst and its unsightly and unnessary . I'm out of touch with hardwoods now , but when I built hill homes I checked out befor hand .
    Also be aware that hardwoods do shrink in width as the boards are usually green even though they look as dry as
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