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Thread: Better vetting of police needed?

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    Cop since '07? Lot can happen in ten years.
    Sometimes no matter how much vetting you do or think you know a person they can do things completely out of character.

    Personally I think the way most police in new Zealand conduct themselves is a lot better than I've seen elsewhere.
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    Police do a great job as far as I'm concerned. Easy to throw stones but who's keen to turn up to gang HQ and sort problems.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibblet View Post
    Cop since '07? Lot can happen in ten years.
    Sometimes no matter how much vetting you do or think you know a person they can do things completely out of character.

    Personally I think the way most police in new Zealand conduct themselves is a lot better than I've seen elsewhere.
    I dont disagree,certainly a lot can happen in ten years that is why we have to be re vetted.
    I wonder if he had a firearms licence? so far they have said it was not a police issue weapon.

    As an aside I guy I worked with for a bit over a year is a cop now.
    I am amazed that he passed the psych assessment quite frankly and would be concerned with his interaction with females.
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    Yikes, this tragedy is a bit raw for this sort of thread isn't it? And to me, the fact that the guy is a policeman is incidental to the size of the tragedy.

    There are human beings involved here, not machines, including the policeman. Let the families and the folk who these victims are precious to mourn in peace. We shouldn't scape goat the police for a tragedy we know nothing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahr View Post
    Yikes, this tragedy is a bit raw for this sort of thread isn't it? And to me, the fact that the guy is a policeman is incidental to the size of the tragedy.

    There are human beings involved here, not machines, including the policeman. Let the families and the folk who these victims are precious to mourn in peace. We shouldn't scape goat the police for a tragedy we know nothing about.
    This is not scape goating police this is discussing the news.
    Tho they scape goat us for their deficiency's all the time Tahr.

    There are human beings being killed everyday in various ways most being reported and discussed.

    If one of us had gone and wasted the ex and her boyfriend it would be all over the news too but to a much greater extent and more calls for greater arms control.

    What vetting do police undergo?
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    People snap. Simple as that.
    I came pretty close myself once.
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    The doors will close and the cape will come down as the ranks close, I think that is the police way, no openess!
    Tragic for the children left with this mess and far to common in NZ.
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    So how long should it be between vetting?

    6 months like a wof?

    Ever had a vehicle that passed a wof, a new power tool, actually anything new/referbed and it's failed a few days/weeks/months later??????

    Is it possible there might have been some type of "Breakdown" similar to above that happens every day and sometimes with little or no warning!

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    I think it happens a lot more frequently than we can ever know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    I think it happens a lot more frequently than we can ever know.
    you sir are 100001%right on the money
    anyone if they so desire can easily hide true feelings /motives until it reaches a point where the stress load detonates.it can also be easier if you are in as career where youre familiar with these sorts of situations and procedures used to deal with firearms etc etc.-believe me the medical /nursing profession has a fairly dasatrdly record with addictions and self immolations,my forte of course would be medications -yes i do know the lethal doses of a lot of OTC medications ,but Im not revealing that. shift work and family stresses in frontline emergency workers are well known for causing unpredictable outcomes in what many would judge to be a relatively benign situation.
    finally my thoughts &prayers go out to all involved-ANZACday being so important in NZwill only enhance the trauma in the years to come as memories are rekindled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengy View Post
    People snap. Simple as that.
    I came pretty close myself once.
    Women have that ability to grind a man to desperation and into dark holes. Thankfully once you get over that brick wall there is a better life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireflite View Post
    So how long should it be between vetting?

    6 months like a wof?

    Ever had a vehicle that passed a wof, a new power tool, actually anything new/referbed and it's failed a few days/weeks/months later??????

    Is it possible there might have been some type of "Breakdown" similar to above that happens every day and sometimes with little or no warning!
    That is a good point you make however I still don't know what vetting they do undergo if any?

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