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Thread: S43A Form (Firearm/Ammo Mail Order)

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    S43A Form (Firearm/Ammo Mail Order)

    Don't know if anyone has this form on file, but I thought it would be a good idea to put it on here.

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    Thank you! Hard little bugger to find without branding on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmay View Post
    Thank you! Hard little bugger to find without branding on it.
    Yeah you'd think it would be available on the police site in PDF form or something
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    if you tell me how to attach it I will do it with the latest version of this form in pdf.
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    Not sure bro, I'm crap with computers.

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    I always use this link http://www.pistolnz.org.nz/media/581...order_form.pdf, prints off nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cambo View Post
    Be sure to leave the Serial Number info off the form. It's not required.

    Use this one instead, provided by COLFO.

    http://www.colfo.org.nz/component/ph...mmunition-2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    Be sure to leave the Serial Number info off the form. It's not required.

    Use this one instead, provided by COLFO.

    http://www.colfo.org.nz/component/ph...mmunition-2017
    And what do you do when the local arms officer won't sign it because it's not the official police form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    And what do you do when the local arms officer won't sign it because it's not the official police form?
    Did you even read the notes at the bottom of the form?

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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    And what do you do when the local arms officer won't sign it because it's not the official police form?
    Lee, you really ruin any positive contributions you make here by being a complete fuckwit the rest of the time. By the way, how's the new boss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    Did you even read the notes at the bottom of the form?

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    My arms officer does what his sergeant tells him too. Not COLFO.

    Do COLFO issue their own lost property or robbery reports for the police to use too?

    Why the fuck would I drive all the way to the cop shop to start an argument over a piece of paper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    My arms officer does what his sergeant tells him too. Not COLFO.

    Do COLFO issue their own lost property or robbery reports for the police to use too?

    Why the fuck would I drive all the way to the cop shop to start an argument over a piece of paper?
    I agree that your arms officer (or any constable) should follow the orders passed down from his superiors UNLESS they are unlawful.

    Nowhere in legislation does it say that a mail order purchase must be done via the Police-provided S43a. They (Police) have authored a form that goes above the minimum required by law. If you have no problem with giving serial numbers and whatever other info the Police are asking for, then by all means, use their form.

    It seems odd to me that you're arguing FOR giving away more info than necessary, or even that you're using mail order at all, since you've claimed to be so cagey about it in the past:

    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    There's shit loads of people who have signed it with comments like "I'm a firearm collector" or "I shoot pistols in competition".

    It took me less than three minutes to search their names and locations through White Pages and get their home address. And of course their phone number to ring to see if they're home. Another click give me a map and street view of their house.

    Not everyone of course, but I found six in about 15 minutes. All had comments indicating endorsements and had easy enough names to Google search to confirm who they were through facebook or linked in.

    Names and addresses along with photos and maps of houses guns are stored in. All found from the comfort of my office while sipping cold beer.

    They are fucking stupid idiots for putting personal information online. How much would the Mongrel Mob pay for a list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    I agree that your arms officer (or any constable) should follow the orders passed down from his superiors UNLESS they are unlawful.

    Nowhere in legislation does it say that a mail order purchase must be done via the Police-provided S43a. They (Police) have authored a form that goes above the minimum required by law. If you have no problem with giving serial numbers and whatever other info the Police are asking for, then by all means, use their form.

    It seems odd to me that you're arguing FOR giving away more info than necessary, or even that you're using mail order at all, since you've claimed to be so cagey about it in the past:



    http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...78/index7.html

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    They have the serial numbers of all the endorsed licence stuff I have. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the cops knowing what A cat guns I buy online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by systolic View Post
    They have the serial numbers of all the endorsed licence stuff I have. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the cops knowing what A cat guns I buy online.
    Plus even if they do get the serial number of the A cat rifle or shotgun you buy, its only as accurate as when completed. Plenty of people will buy a rifle today and sell it tomorrow. So having the number doesn't mean much, other than potentially helping if it gets stolen and you didn't record the number.
    Most times I don't include it, and have never had an issue. Plus some of them don't care for it, as it can be easily onsold so there is no benefit for them to record it. Also helps them to search for potentially stolen firearms as well.

    I see the arguments for not giving the number, but the AO is the one that issues the form, so you can chose to argue it and they may not complete the form. Cause no where in the law does it say that the AO must complete the form for you.
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