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    ammunition on national flights

    Hiya.

    I recently flew to Christchurch for a hunt, I had about 15x rounds inside a standard pouch with the elastic fitted holes which you put your bullets inside. On the flight from AKLD I had no issues with security however when I checked in my bag to the flight from Christchurch to AKLD the security person said there are new rules that all ammunition has to be stored in the 'original' packaging... I had all of my rem mag AMAX rounds confiscated... My pouch wasn't acceptable.

    With these new said rules, how would I go about transporting them the next time? Would one of those green hardlid cases be acceptable?

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    They told me that at CHCH about 2 years ago, but there is no rule about original packaging. I eventually got Air NZ to send a taxi 50k to my house pick up my rifle and ammo that I had sent back with my wife and they put it on a later flight for me.
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    Just go buy a pack and empty it, thy aren't going to know the difference, they might go as far as looking at the headstand though

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    This is what it says on the Air NZ website https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/dangerous-goods

    "Airline safety requirements

    Ammunition must be securely packed in division 1.4S (UN0012 or UN0014) and must not exceed 5kg gross weight."

    No mention of original packaging.

    I rang and had a long discussion with Air NZ at the time and the person agreed there was no requirement that it had to be in the original packaging, just secure. I was also able to tell them that when I booked and told them I was travelling with a firearm I was told the ammunition had to be separate, but no mention was made of it having to be in original packaging.

    Cost them a few hundred dollars to get right.
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    I've just sent an email to CAA, so hopefully will get a reply about this soon.

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    Should have just told him that they were commercially supplied reloads and arrived in that packaging.
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    When travelling with handgun ammo the plastic storage boxes were fine.
    Can't see why it would be any different with rifle ammo.
    Last time I went north the kiosk attendant made me pull out my hard case which was at the bottom of my bag to show her it was locked. No one else I travelled with had to do it.

    Sending ammo up prior to a match is the done thing now as guys using .40 would go over the 5kgs limit anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Last time I went north the kiosk attendant made me pull out my hard case which was at the bottom of my bag to show her it was locked. No one else I travelled with had to do it.


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    Being a Coaster she was probably curious as to how you could open it without thumbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Being a Coaster she was probably curious as to how you could open it without thumbs
    Ha. Probably. Certainly wasn't my charm.
    Having to pull my PJs and teddy bear out in front of everyone waiting was a bit on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Ha. Probably. Certainly wasn't my charm.
    Having to pull my PJs and teddy bear out in front of everyone waiting was a bit on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjon_ View Post
    PJ's or one'se?
    PJs for me and Boo bear has a onesie😆

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotsoup View Post
    Hiya.

    I recently flew to Christchurch for a hunt, I had about 15x rounds inside a standard pouch with the elastic fitted holes which you put your bullets inside. On the flight from AKLD I had no issues with security however when I checked in my bag to the flight from Christchurch to AKLD the security person said there are new rules that all ammunition has to be stored in the 'original' packaging... I had all of my rem mag AMAX rounds confiscated... My pouch wasn't acceptable.

    With these new said rules, how would I go about transporting them the next time? Would one of those green hardlid cases be acceptable?
    I had the same problem at Christchurch any round that wasn't in a plastic storage box that keeps the rounds separate was distroyed.
    And I had phoned Auckland information twice to ask the rules and there was no mention of it.
    So when I got back and after a few emails to them they reimbursed me for the rounds they took and they said that there call center was wrong and all ammo must be in an approved container that keeps all rounds separate.

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    Gawd - that narrows it down when some commercially supplied packaging is 'approved' yet doesn't keep the rounds seperate. I wonder if you went in with commercial packaging that was sealed - would they open it to check? Seems the same as the old firearms courier trick about seperating the bolt and the firearm. I sent a single shot and got told to seperate the bolt or they wouldn't accept it - had em completely confused when I enquired as to which bolt they wanted me to remove, stock bolt, forearm bolt, crossbolt safety, etc etc. They were even more confussed when I said I was happy to remove whatever bolt they wanted and it wouldn't change anything anyway as the working parts couldn't be removed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    PJs for me and Boo bear has a onesie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    One day I will introduce your Boo bear to my Tum Tum Teddy. We're big boys now huh? Ha ha ha ha.
    It's a date.

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