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    Giving Copy of Firearms Licence

    One of my roommates is doing childcare at our place, and the company he is doing it with seems a bit dodgy. They are asking for a copy of my Firearms licence, is there any harm in giving this or can it be misused somehow? Sorry if stupid question, just wanting to play it safe.
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    Tell them to shove it.
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    They might just be asking for a copy of ID full stop, ask if NZ DL or passport is fine (they are primary IDs so should be)

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    They already have passport copy, they want firearms licence copy as well, after I filled out this box on the form (http://puu.sh/u24HE/54ad073d00.png)

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    I would give the Arms Office a ring on that one. If it was me I would write 'confidential' in the licence number space. It sounds as though they also want to come and check the security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundoc View Post
    I would give the Arms Office a ring on that one. If it was me I would write 'confidential' in the licence number space. It sounds as though they also want to come and check the security.
    Ill give them a ring again, thanks I sent in an email and rang them before posting here, no one ever picks up or replies to email, even though we have three of them here in Manukau.
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    "own a firearms licence" Form obviously designed by someone without complete knowledge of the system. Good that their vetting covers firearms in the premises but I would be reluctant to share my licence # with this sort of organisation. I would agree with Gundoc.
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    Went through the same thing with an in house child care company my partner was working for here. Told the company they could sight my license but I would not provide the number or a copy of it. They wanted to check the firearm security and I told them that as a holder of a valid license the police were happy with my firearms storage. I did tell the company I did not want to provide my license details to them or security details to them as I could not vouch for the security of their records. They promptly went complaining to our local arms officer who gave me a call. Arms officer told me it was my choice to provide them the number or copy.

    The company did undertake a police check for me which was fine. I wrote a few conditions on their police check authorisation form before signing it though. The boss at the company who talked with me and my partner was obviously used to getting their way - I refrained from telling them they were an idiot and kicking them out of my house

    Not long after I was contacted by a police officer asking to complete a firearms storage inspection. The cop that undertook it was a good guy and all was fine.
    Partner got the job and all was fine.

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    It is apparently a requirement of the government funding forms for childcare, my wife looked into it but I told her no-go on the firearms details and requirements for information on the forms. I made the same link you did, answer 'No' and risk a major headache later, answer 'Yes' and get run through the coals and probably a visit from the local thieving c**nts.

    Needless to say, we aren't doing home based childcare at the moment. Fu**heads...

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    Do they want to count your kitchen knives and list them, and what about the completion certificate for the house, and the lead paint, and a check for "P"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    One of my roommates is doing childcare at our place, and the company he is doing it with seems a bit dodgy. They are asking for a copy of my Firearms licence, is there any harm in giving this or can it be misused somehow? Sorry if stupid question, just wanting to play it safe.
    Your flatmate is going to do home based child care in your flat/house? Screw that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    Your flatmate is going to do home based child care in your flat/house? Screw that!
    18 yr old kids!! yahoo!!
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    I see where the company could be coming from, wanting to be certain that if there are firearms on the premises , that they are stored in a manner that is safe to keep them away from those under your care. Clearly the way they are going about it reeks of a complete lack of knowledge about these matters. While I am not sure of a proper solution, what they are asking does appear to have the potential to increase the risk of a breach of security / safety. First question I would be asking would be along the lines of

    "Are they the sort of person that would be allowed anywhere near firearms?" And "if I dont allow anyone else access, what makes you think I would give them access?" Do they not understand that this itself is a breach of safety protocols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    They already have passport copy, they want firearms licence copy as well, after I filled out this box on the form (http://puu.sh/u24HE/54ad073d00.png)
    @TheChosenOne

    Whatever you do "Do Not Show Anyone Where You Keep Your Safe Keys". Not even the child care people.

    And as said talk to your AO before you give them your licence number.

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    I am with Pengy on this one.
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