Thread: New gun security laws

Originally Posted by GravelBen

Of course, the flipside is cut off the hand accused of stealing with marginal evidence and you'll look a right prick if it turns out they're innocent later.

Then the prudent thing to do would be to not make mistakes.

Chopping hands off doesn't work either the middle east is full of thieves and murders, The dumb bastards think they are going to get away with it just like the dip shits here, only here they are getting away with it
the burglary rate clearance is a disgrace if were a cop I would be ashamed to admit the fact, catch the thieves and put them away for a long stretch will dry up the money pool to buy drugs,
and stop being nice to prisoners most of them are better cared for in prison than on the out side, they come out for a few months visit wth whanau then go back in, maybe the family of convicts should pay
for their upkeep while in prison would be an incentive to stay on the outside.

Then first New Zealand should step out of United Nations.
Then we can lock up and do all the miserable things we want to those stealing bastards.
And we won't have to worry about our gun laws being in trouble because we can decide on our own and would not have to follow New York or Tokyo ruling!
And we, the honest citizen,would be able to buy back the old weapons of our army and police as we would not have to obey the small arm proliferation bullshit that our gvt signed at the un. And we would not have to pay them to have representive like clark over there. Save us some $$$ as well.
And we could shut the mouth of a few politically correct journalists , and put the like of heather in front of a real tribunal to deal with her case.
Some kind of a better democracy isn t it?

Originally Posted by Rushy

Then the prudent thing to do would be to not make mistakes.

Clearly our "justice" system is not capable of that, seen the news in the last 6 months?

Originally Posted by Friwi

Then first New Zealand should step out of United Nations.
Then we can lock up and do all the miserable things we want to those stealing bastards.
And we won't have to worry about our gun laws being in trouble because we can decide on our own and would not have to follow New York or Tokyo ruling!
And we, the honest citizen,would be able to buy back the old weapons of our army and police as we would not have to obey the small arm proliferation bullshit that our gvt signed at the un. And we would not have to pay them to have representive like clark over there. Save us some $$$ as well.
And we could shut the mouth of a few politically correct journalists , and put the like of heather in front of a real tribunal to deal with her case.
Some kind of a better democracy isn t it?

FFS, where to start ?

Chopping the hands off burglars ? What else, maybe just execute hunters who shoot other people ? Torturing people under the belief of handing out justice is what ISIS are doing, because they believe they're right and everyone else is wrong, so let's grab a gay guy and throw him off a building. After all, why stop at just thieves ?

Our gun laws are some of the best in the world - common sense with a touch of security. Unless you'd prefer UK or Australia restrictions, or USA better pack a Glock going to the shops because every nutjob has one tucked under their shirt because they think you're the threat.

Clark doesn't represent us at the UN, she's an employee of the UN as "Administrator of the United Nations Development Programme" She has never represented NZ at the UN except when she visited as PM.

Ironically, your better democracy you've just described wouldn't allow you to post what you've said, because you don't want freedom of speech.

Facts, pesky things but vital to know.

There are many different beliefs in this world that we live in and it is arrogant of us in the more liberal, democratic, westernised, Christian world to believe that we have got our justice system right and those that think differently have got it wrong. Whilst attitudes toward a justice system different from ours may seem barbaric to many, it is a fact that there are 58 countries in the world that still have capital punishment and among them is the leader of the democratic (so called "free") world (USA), the most highly populated countries like China and India, and several of our other foreign trading partners such as Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and Taiwan.

I like the way Singapore has a ton of harsh sentencing measures, but doesn't really have to do much in the way of actually carrying it out. They play serious, and as a result everything works. Best system of government really, the benevolent dictatorship

Honest people would generally be that way even if there were no "rules'

Ratbags will always be ratbags regardless of rules or lack there of.

Dealing with them is difficult as they usually don't care about the "consequences" unless it is directly applying to them at the time

Originally Posted by Tommy

I like the way Singapore has a ton of harsh sentencing measures, but doesn't really have to do much in the way of actually carrying it out. They play serious, and as a result everything works. Best system of government really, the benevolent dictatorship

Singapore is a Confucian society. Has some benefits but I prefer thinking for myself.

I wash confushed at how everything worked and was sparkling clean, for sure.

Originally Posted by Tommy

I wash confushed at how everything worked and was sparkling clean, for sure.

Much like here.

My wife just got back from the local bottle shop. She witnessed a teenager knock a whole case of beer off the shelf to create a distraction, then legged it a minute later with a 6 pack of RTDs into a waiting car. Freakin dirtbags

Originally Posted by Dead is better

My wife just got back from the local bottle shop. She witnessed a teenager knock a whole case of beer off the shelf to create a distraction, then legged it a minute later with a 6 pack of RTDs into a waiting car. Freakin dirtbags

Geez shouldn't that be the other way round? Muppet

Originally Posted by Skitsokiwi

Hey guys

Friend of mine recently went into our local h&f to inquire about their e cat safe prices. He was told not to bother as they had received a letter from the police stating that they no longer recognise any of the current e cat safes as approved methods of storage no matter the cert they have and have put a hold on all e and a cat storage checks or something along those lines. The reasoning is that they are going to an approved police engineer that will be the only one able to certify a firearms safe etc and each safe will have to be individually approved not just a model of safe. Apparently due to some safes being approved when really they shouldn't be and the police having no "control" over the certifier.

Anyone else heard anything about this happening?

Getting back on topic, just had a similar experience. A few months back I bought a second hand e-cat safe off a forum member. He provided the original receipt, that shows the store sold it as e-cat rated, but didn't provide an engineer's certificate.

I emailed the shop explaining the situation, sent a scan of the receipt and requested the certificate.

Here's the reply:

"The E-Cat safe situation is a little complicated at the moment - a couple of weeks ago the Police demanded a re-certification of all restricted category safes, so we are currently in the process of going through this with our supplier"

Fingers crossed my model of safe DOES get recertified.

Originally Posted by Dead is better

My wife just got back from the local bottle shop. She witnessed a teenager knock a whole case of beer off the shelf to create a distraction, then legged it a minute later with a 6 pack of RTDs into a waiting car. Freakin dirtbags

Fucking scumbag.