Thread: New Updated Arms Code 2017

Not sure if it's been suggested yet, but my theory is that this release was entirely intentional, and ties in with the select committee recommendation that the stuff in the police arms manual be brought into legislation (or words to that effect).

Police saw this as an opportunity to write a wishlist into their arms code in the hope that no one noticed and it snuck into law.

Dreamers.

Yes it was a cynical attempt at coercing new firearms owners to think there was a new law and if they refused to justify their firearms ownership they would be denied a licence. A classic example of small incremental "reasonable" changes having a big effect over time.

Originally Posted by systolic

Go and fuck yourself.

Have a week off and don't be such a massive punisher when you come back, I'm sick of getting emails when your posts get reported

Received this over night from Antique Arms. Andrew is the NZAHAA Rep on COLFO.

"Hi All

There has been a fair ammount of discussion and concern expressed regarding the publication of the 2017 Arms Code on the Police web site. This was an early draft mistakenly published. Please read below which is from an email sent to FACF members this evening that will clarify the situation.

Please circulate around your memberships ASAP to avoid further confusion.

As always if you have questions or concerns please contact me

Thanks and regards

Andrew

You will all be aware that Police’s Response and Operations Group has been reviewing the Arms Code – last published in 2013. Some of you may have been consulted on aspects that needed updating.

Today it came to the attention of Police National Headquarters that an early version had been placed on Police’s internet site. Members of the firearms community have correctly noted errors in this document.

For your information the document has been taken off the website. It is our intention to complete our review of the Arms Code and this process will include consultation with FCAF members. The aim is for the update to be published in hard copy form and on the website by mid-July."

What a load of bollocks, early draft maistakenly published. What about all the hard copies given out with firearms licence renewals? No way do you mistakenly publish those. That had to be a commercial contract and signed off by people in high places.

Originally Posted by zimmer

Received this over night from Antique Arms. Andrew is the NZAHAA Rep on COLFO.

"Hi All

There has been a fair ammount of discussion and concern expressed regarding the publication of the 2017 Arms Code on the Police web site. This was an early draft mistakenly published. Please read below which is from an email sent to FACF members this evening that will clarify the situation.

Please circulate around your memberships ASAP to avoid further confusion.

As always if you have questions or concerns please contact me

Thanks and regards

Andrew

You will all be aware that Police’s Response and Operations Group has been reviewing the Arms Code – last published in 2013. Some of you may have been consulted on aspects that needed updating.

Today it came to the attention of Police National Headquarters that an early version had been placed on Police’s internet site. Members of the firearms community have correctly noted errors in this document.

For your information the document has been taken off the website. It is our intention to complete our review of the Arms Code and this process will include consultation with FCAF members. The aim is for the update to be published in hard copy form and on the website by mid-July."

early draft mistakenly published? we keep calling the police on their bullshit and illegal stunts, and they still think we are that stupid? really?

Originally Posted by zimmer

Received this over night from Antique Arms. Andrew is the NZAHAA Rep on COLFO.

"Hi All

There has been a fair ammount of discussion and concern expressed regarding the publication of the 2017 Arms Code on the Police web site. This was an early draft mistakenly published. Please read below which is from an email sent to FACF members this evening that will clarify the situation.

Please circulate around your memberships ASAP to avoid further confusion.

As always if you have questions or concerns please contact me

Thanks and regards

Andrew

You will all be aware that Police’s Response and Operations Group has been reviewing the Arms Code – last published in 2013. Some of you may have been consulted on aspects that needed updating.

Today it came to the attention of Police National Headquarters that an early version had been placed on Police’s internet site. Members of the firearms community have correctly noted errors in this document.

For your information the document has been taken off the website. It is our intention to complete our review of the Arms Code and this process will include consultation with FCAF members. The aim is for the update to be published in hard copy form and on the website by mid-July."

What a load of bullshit,

They pushed and we pushed back now they are like shit maybe we got this wrong

Yeah Andrew is a good guy doing his best for us but the cynic in me would have to question the "mistaken" publication by the police and their motives behind it.

Letting off steam on a forum is one thing but it is a numbers game now via submissions, so keep those submissions rolling in to Paula, her wee advisory team, your MP.

Originally Posted by stug

What a load of bollocks, early draft maistakenly published. What about all the hard copies given out with firearms licence renewals? No way do you mistakenly publish those. That had to be a commercial contract and signed off by people in high places.

Are there any hard copies.? I dropped into my cop shop last week and all they had was the 2013 version.

Keep piling in the submissions. Keep in mind this is only a battle, the war will take longer to sort, and typically most of us will flare up and then go off the boil whilst those agin us will continue to plod along on the long haul.

IGNORE ABOVE, YOU ARE RIGHT, apparently hard copies are out there.

This from SSANZ

"We have been advised that the 2017 Arms Code has been pulled from the Police website after various firearm groups (including SSANZ) pointed out glaring errors. Police claiming it was an advance copy. However we don't think so because a printed version has also been published and is in circulation. Police claim they are now going to review the document and consult with the FCAF, which they should have done in the first instant."

Just to clarify, the section of the message I posted following ANDREW is what they received, not Andrew's words. Don't kill the messanger (Andrew) or me for that sake. ha ha

@zimmer Outdoorlad posted a pic of a hard copy of 2017 Code and vietnamcam said he had a copy as well. Someone else posted they picked up 15 copies for their firearms licence course they were running.

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Originally Posted by stug

@zimmer Outdoorlad posted a pic of a hard copy of 2017 Code and vietnamcam said he had a copy as well. Someone else posted they picked up 15 copies for their firearms licence course they were running.

Thanks Stug, missed that.

I wonder now if they will do the "right" thing and recall the misleading information they have provided in the form of hard copies ha ha.

Publishing a booklet like that is not a 5 minute exercise - they have been working on that or some time whilst not disclosing their intent to the mixed committee.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

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LOL. The "smoking gun"