Thread: Richochet!!

Ive been hit by airgun pellet that hit wooden target at 25 yards then came back to us...very soft lead they are too.
head shot big ram in woolshed with .12ga solid and the plurry thing bounced all around the walls after dealing to the silly baabaas brains coming to rest close to my leg....funny how it didnt fall through grating. didnt do that again,faaarkin hard on the ears too,took to smacking them on the noggin with the emery spanner after that.lol.

Ive witnessed steel shot rattle off the wing feathers of swans at ellesmere-most bloody disconcerting-hoped they'd come a little closer so i could use the shotty like a softball bat and clobber em outta the sky -no such luck.
seen more than one.22 screech off into the wild blue yonder having struck water or stones. definitely grundies filling i must say.
working in the butts details at wes tmelton rifle range in my TF army days was also buttock clenching when rounds smashed into the concrete cover before slamming through fig11 targets sideways or as happened a couple of times smashing it in half with the top rapidly landing on my swede!!

One thing I must say is I haven't had a ricochet with 17 grain HP .17hmr yet. Those little pills seem to explode on a blade of grass!

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

One thing I must say is I haven't had a ricochet with 17 grain HP .17hmr yet. Those little pills seem to explode on a blade of grass!

I've always wanted to do some testing on how explosive 17hmr, in respect to it's tendency to ricochet (or not).

I wonder if the Barnes Varmint Grenade bullets ever ricochet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSe8N0jBXhs

I fire my 17hmr at a rabbit about 100 metres away, down hill from the bipod one day. Lined it up, bang, no reaction, no sign of ground strike, fired a second, same result. Then realised there was the odd piece of dry grass in the firing line, close to the barrel. Cleared the way and third shot, dead rabbit. I think the projectile exploded on hitting the grass? After two shots a no reaction, I figure they didn't get ther?

Originally Posted by Maca49

I fire my 17hmr at a rabbit about 100 metres away, down hill from the bipod one day. Lined it up, bang, no reaction, no sign of ground strike, fired a second, same result. Then realised there was the odd piece of dry grass in the firing line, close to the barrel. Cleared the way and third shot, dead rabbit. I think the projectile exploded on hitting the grass? After two shots a no reaction, I figure they didn't get ther?

I think an experiment is definitely in order!
I'll do my best but don't hold your breath for me too do one any time soon though, my laziness and procrastinating abilities are very high.

Yep I have managed to break fence wire with it on a few occasions, but you hear that!

Originally Posted by Maca49

Yep I have managed to break fence wire with it on a few occasions, but you hear that!

Ouch, Hope I don't manage that or might not be invited back.

Yes a 17hmr ricochet test would be great. I am such a procrastinator/lazy that I wont be doing one.

Originally Posted by P38

Gau Gattiling guns are where it's at thats for sure.

Some of the ordanance for the GAU-8 costs over $30us/round .... work that out at 4000 rounds/minute.

The can also go through a tonne of ammo in a few short minutes.

Be bloody awesome to have a go with a few 10 second busts while hanging out of the chopper.

gentlemen _Im a great fan of the A10 warthog as a solution to all hunting dilemmas.Expensive -yes ill grant you that ,but where else can you get a weapon that tags ,shags and bags em all in one operation. OOOOOOOOHShit -hold on CAA knocking on my front door

I got my first one a couple months ago, I was about 20 degrees to the side and behing someone shooting steel with their 38 super race gun. So I was probably 25M from steel. Got me right of the left pec a couple centimeters from the blimmin nipple Hurt like hell but at least I could consider myself lucky it wasn't a tad over.

Now this has appeared Fish and Game manager defends report saying shot can ricochet off ducks | Stuff.co.nz

Looking at replacing 50 metre swinging gongs at the Black Power range, had a piece of 1" bisaloy on trial last shoot, hung on two shackles, no chain. Shooting a 223 at it, there was a lack of movement on hitting and real ricochet danger. Current gongs dor BP shooting are swung off horizontal galv pipe, approx 4" long hinge to plate, these swing well and deflect projectile downwards. Anybody got any other ideas to stop the boredom?

Originally Posted by Maca49

Looking at replacing 50 metre swinging gongs at the Black Power range, had a piece of 1" bisaloy on trial last shoot, hung on two shackles, no chain. Shooting a 223 at it, there was a lack of movement on hitting and real ricochet danger. Current gongs dor BP shooting are swung off horizontal galv pipe, approx 4" long hinge to plate, these swing well and deflect projectile downwards. Anybody got any other ideas to stop the boredom?

All steel targets should be BIS500/AR500, arranged so that the impact face is square to the shooting position, and leaning forward at the top of the target, 20deg off vertical, to ensure that the bullet splatter is directed towards the ground and minimise the chance of a ricochet. Keep bullet speed (regardless of calibre) below 900m/sec if you want to keep your plates in good condition (not a problem for black powder)

To stop boredom:
1. stop shooting black powder (rate of fire is way too slow to be fun)
2. use live reactive targets (we need to import and release some ground hogs and some Meerkats!)

Originally Posted by hotbarrels

All steel targets should be BIS500/AR500, arranged so that the impact face is square to the shooting position, and leaning forward at the top of the target, 20deg off vertical, to ensure that the bullet splatter is directed towards the ground and minimise the chance of a ricochet. Keep bullet speed (regardless of calibre) below 900m/sec if you want to keep your plates in good condition (not a problem for black powder)

To stop boredom:
1. stop shooting black powder (rate of fire is way too slow to be fun)
2. use live reactive targets (we need to import and release some ground hogs and some Meerkats!)

I read that with interest until #1. #2 we use live pigeons for shotgun in the avo!
Under 900 FPS is a bit ask, my double does 1900 FPS and the 45/70 gets up there.
Thanks for the help on the above.
Sorry see your a metric man, just trebbled my speed!
Will take this to the range and try it. 50 metres is far for stuff to come back!

Originally Posted by Maca49

I read that with interest until #1. #2 we use live pigeons for shotgun in the avo!
Under 900 FPS is a bit ask, my double does 1900 FPS and the 45/70 gets up there.
Thanks for the help on the above.
Sorry see your a metric man, just trebbled my speed!
Will take this to the range and try it. 50 metres is far for stuff to come back!

Speed in the quoted post is 900 Metres per second unless he made a typo. That is 2900fps or thereabouts....