I rate 9mm sigs. Carried one for years and shot a few of their models well.
But not so sure about one in .45
1911 was built around the .45
Great cartridge and gun.
I am a fan of the modern high capacity guns for IPSC/Action.
.40 S&W or 10mm is still a lot of cartridge that leaves big holes😆
10mm the gruntier of the 2 is not that available in an ipsc version. But a nice 10mm gun shooting rounds loaded to power factor would last you a long time I reckon.
This is gun porn to me😆
So much so, I am going to buy another one.
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Do what ya want! Ya will anyway.
I'd recommend the 1911-
1) It's a classic
2) More aftermarket grips and customising options
I love mine and would not part with it
As for the Sig - a mate has one and he finds it hard to be accurate with it - YMMV
I havn't read all the posts yet - but if your shooting it in Action as a metallic gun then has to be the 1911, I would assume it will be much more accurate and the sig double action will kill your scores. I have a Kimber 1911 in 9mm for Action metallic div - another good option!! But I get the 45 bug - I don't know anyone shooting a 45 in Action either
Being over gunned is under rated.
@R93: that's not a pistol — that's a raygun the 1911's history speaks for itself, alright.
@308: i agree the 1911 is a classic, and if i were to get it, i'd have no intention of customising it.
@stumpy: ah-HA — thank you for your vote!
@Vapour: good points — 've just waded through the NRA rules and the SIG falls into production which means first-shot double-action-only which would very frustrating (and expensive) at the 50-yard line for a recent shooter like myself.
— 2 x against the SIG;
— 1.5 x for the SIG (i'm splitting @R93's between the SIG and the 1911);
— 6.5 x for the 1911, a couple with caveats;
— 2 x unsolicited for a CZ; and
— 1 x call for common sense;
— 1 x call for the application of cold logic.
the ornery part of me says bugger to the 1911 bloc but the calls for common sense and logic are beginning to nag at me.
I also have a .40s&w dbl stack para, and its a accurate f'ing thing and feels good in the hand(fat grips, good/great to shoot, shit to change mags in a hurry - small hand/cock issue.), the cz sp-01 shadow, just "fits me", all around. i shoot it quick and accurate over all.
The .40 is fun to shoot though
I just like small holes though...
So thats a 1911/2011 40/45, if you want shits and giggles
Or a if you want to win vote, go cz 9mm
Please excuse spelling, as finger speed is sometimes behind brain spped........ Or maybe the other wayy.....
thank you to the forum hivemind: i'm going for the 1911.
According to my experience, 1911 is a better choice between 1911 and P220. Since it is a classic gun and has better after-market grip, you should say YES to 1911.
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@gunnerjacky @Beaker @R93 @nzfubz @Vapour @stumpy @308 @specweapon @bluemonsta @gundoc @res @johnd ó thank you all for your kind words and advice last year. below is a little something for your entertainment and smh-ing.
MY FIRST .45
Warning: not all of the following is necessarily true or actually happened.
When I joined the Auckland Pistol Club a few years back, it seemed like everyone was running a Glock or a CZ. The club guns were Glocks and CZs. Everyone told me that the perfect first pistol was either a Glock (for the ease-of-use and reliability) or a CZ (for the accuracy and reliability). And as I progressed through my training and probation, I knew one thing: my first pistol was not going to be a Glock or a CZ.
I bought a Springfield Armory XD having neither handled nor shot one, and Sheila and I ó yes, I named her ó would throw jacketed lead downrange whenever my and the club armourerís schedules coincided (my B endorsement was still pending). The XD worked ó and still works ó perfectly, eating whatever factory and reloaded ammo itís fed without complaint, and is a wonderful and fun pistol for IPSC matches. Then I got a Tanfoglio P19 for NRA matches and I broke it on each of my first two range visits with it (but thatís another story).
Fastfoward to last year and, with two 9mmís (figuratively) on my belt, I got a hankering for a .45. Thatís not exactly true ó the stars aligned and available for sale were: a barely used SIG-Sauer P220 at an awesomely reasonable price; and a brand spanking Tanfoglio 1911 at a very competitive price. Both pistols were all steel, and each came with enough eight-round mags to complete a typical IPSC match (if I remained calm enough to be both accurate and frugal). I had quite the conundrum.
Google helped a little. The SIG-Sauer had countless positive reviews while reviews of the actual Tanfoglio 1911 were a little thin (and usually not in English). I asked an online forum and once I sorted out the Glock and CZ fans ó seriously, you canít take two steps without tripping over one ó I had a list of proís and conís. It was German precision versus an all-American classic. Teutonic reliability versus a century-old-plus design. One bright spark pointed out that if I wanted to claim any kind of proficiency with any firearm, I should sleep with it as well. No, wait: that would threaten my B endorsement, not to mention sleeping arrangements with my Lovely Wife. What they actually said was, proficiency comes from practice, visualisation, practice, muscle memory, and more practice.
The Tanfoglio 1911ís controls are similar to those on my P19: magazine release, slide release, and safety catch. Similar and familiar controls are good between pistols. The P220, however, has no safety catch ó it has a decocking lever which means that, having racked the slide and chambered a round, the decocker has to lower the hammer, so the first shot has to be double-action. Since I enjoy shooting cocked-and-locked, controlling that first double-action shot was going to require a lot of practice ó and .45 ACP ammo isnít cheap.
I umm-ed and ahh-ed. The clock was ticking on the SIG-Sauer and the Tanfoglio.
Then I saw an awesome online special and bought a Grand Power P45 without having handled or shot one ó but look: a rotating barrel! ambidextrous controls! ten rounds per mag!
And when the P45 arrived in the mail and I held it in my handsÖ it was hate at first sight.
The Grand Power looks like an air pistol. I own a Glock 21 and an original WWII-era Colt 1911A1. The Glock is accurate and the sights a good, whereas the Colt is mostly for fun