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    Next time we do our vetting will be when my wife gets her license. She has no interest in my guns or hunting but she has no interest in them being taken from her either if something was to happen to me. Consider if something happened to yourself.(car accident, other fatality, etc) and realise that while the wife is dealing with all the grief and strife that is happening, that on top of that she has the police (or someone else) arrive to take the firearms to where they can be legally stored.

    It also has the advantage that if I forget something (bolt ammo or something else in the cabinet) or I lend a rifle to another hunting mate (or for any other reason) I can call an ask her to get them out for me. That completely negates them bothering to ask "if my wife knew where the key was kept" as the answer would be "Damn straight she does. Her one is in there too....

    Just saying.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    You're telling me your wife has not a single fucking clue where the key to your safe is? Don't lie to yourself...
    so , always hard to decide how someone is writing something and in what tone , but whats up with the agro ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    You're telling me your wife has not a single fucking clue where the key to your safe is? Don't lie to yourself...
    Mine knows exactly where the key to the safe is, Its locked in the safe!!

    Now the combination she has less than no idea of and has never asked. Its not written down ANYHERE and if anything should happen to me the locksmiths will no doubt be getting a call
    If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy View Post
    so , always hard to decide how someone is writing something and in what tone , but whats up with the agro ?
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    Not at all aggro mate, just saying you're telling a bit of a porky.


    However in mikee's case that makes absolute sense, there's no reason to give the spouse the code if they're not a firearm user.
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    So you think E cat is no deadlier than A but C is more deadly than A if it is select fire? I fail to follow your logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    Next time we do our vetting will be when my wife gets her license. She has no interest in my guns or hunting but she has no interest in them being taken from her either if something was to happen to me. Consider if something happened to yourself.(car accident, other fatality, etc) and realise that while the wife is dealing with all the grief and strife that is happening, that on top of that she has the police (or someone else) arrive to take the firearms to where they can be legally stored.

    It also has the advantage that if I forget something (bolt ammo or something else in the cabinet) or I lend a rifle to another hunting mate (or for any other reason) I can call an ask her to get them out for me. That completely negates them bothering to ask "if my wife knew where the key was kept" as the answer would be "Damn straight she does. Her one is in there too....

    Just saying.....
    Great idea mate. I do have someone in my will to "hold" my firearms until such time my son is properly licenced. All my kit is willed to him.
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    Security checks seem to be a mixed bag. Guy doing mine when I changed address didn't even realise I had a B/E endorsement until he saw inside the safe. No questions about keys

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    Great idea mate. I do have someone in my will to "hold" my firearms until such time my son is properly licenced. All my kit is willed to him.
    I have the same deal organised. They go to my brother to he held for my Nephew (and nieces if they are interested) Endorsed ones go to my best mate until wifey decides what to do with them.
    Lots of people don't think about what happens god forbid they have an accident
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jexla View Post
    Not at all aggro mate, just saying you're telling a bit of a porky.


    However in mikee's case that makes absolute sense, there's no reason to give the spouse the code if they're not a firearm user.
    @Jexla .... do you know me personally ?
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    My keys are with me all the time. You'd literally have to fight me for access to my safe.
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    all these guys @Jexla coming out with statements about their security and yet no comment from you except on my post .......is this personal ?
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    Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife

    Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.

    And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.

    Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stumpy View Post
    all these guys @Jexla coming out with statements about their security and yet no comment from you except on my post .......is this personal ?
    Hey mate, don't know you from a bar of soap, sorry you've taken it so badly. Forget I said anything
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    So you think E cat is no deadlier than A but C is more deadly than A if it is select fire? I fail to follow your logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Most safes can be opened with a pocket knife

    Wife has full access to safe, after all she has a firearms licence, and 1/ Because she has a couple of rifles of her own, 2/ If anything should happen to me "they" are not going to come and remove my stuff.

    And same as R93 I have a reciprocal agreement with a mate. Should something happen to him I am in his will and his collection comes to me to dispose of on his wife's behalf. I would ensure she gets proper value rather than ripped off by a dealer at a time when she may not be at her best to cope.

    Fark, this thread is getting morbid now, but I wonder how many others have thought it thru should something bad happen.
    Yeah I have the same agreement with a mate who is endorsed - It's not really morbid, just prudent

    If we who are talking here provide the impetus for someone to make the same sort of agreement with a mate elsewhere then I call that a damn fine thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    If we who are talking here provide the impetus for someone to make the same sort of agreement with a mate elsewhere then I call that a damn fine thing
    you've got me thinking, alright — thanks, guys.

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    I had one person ask me recently if my wife knew where the keys were to the safe. I told him she didn't and he said he had told his wife following some home invasion where they wanted the wife who was at home to open the safe. He thought it was better she did than get bashed.

    In two minds about it though. Then they have your wife and guns..

 

 

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