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Iv had the alumina flip ups, but I think the vortex defender are better, far more robust, better priced with 3 positions ,closed, upright or lay flat. and they now offer a clip in dope disk system...

Yes you do see this a bit but its never qualified with a model. the " vortex wasnt as good as the Leopold" Well a $200 crossfire is never going to be as good as a much higher priced VX3 . Along...