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I wish I could like the above post twice. Bravo Hoon, you said it better than I could :)

Yoy didnt really answer the question, but what you wrote is parallel to Ruff's "my mate charged $1500 so mine must be worth $2000"

Greed, nothing more.

So if you don't buy it, what's the excuse for paying European prices here?

Where do you see it ending? Driving people away from pedigree dogs?

No but thats a good point. That thing was overall better than my smooth haired vizsla, bred by someone who had no clue!

I've deliberately left breeds and breeders names out of this thread as it...

I wouldnt say I have written them off, the fourth one I saw was very good bordering on excellent, on the two times I hunted with him, once on deer and once on upland. I very seriously considered one...

Sure. I have only seen four examples of the particular breed in question so not a huge sample but considering they are all from the same source it counts for something. One didn't retrieve, the other...

...and I don't think that should cost an arm and a leg.

This thread has driven me to drink

Not a bad plan when I get back. I won't bring that terrible beer this time :sick:

That's OK, were all adults here. We agree on most things, about time we found something not to agree on :) will write a novel tonight. It's not easy on a phone

Respectfully I haven't responded to you because I don't know where to begin. I disagree with absolutely every point you made in your first post, and don't know how to put it all down in writing! :D

That used to be called an accident, not a golberian... whelped under the back step and given away quietly

Sad thing is, at $2000 a pup a large litter becomes a lucrative proposition.

Don't even get me started on the NZKC, a top heavy institution run by a pack of sequin wearing pomeranian breeders, whose sole purpose in life is to clip the ticket on dog shows. Putting regulations...

This isn't the world wide market. This is a tiny collection of islands at the bottom of the Pacific. That price is motivated by greed and marketing, nothing more.

That's the thing Mikee, no...

I respect that, but no serious dog man could look a buyer in the eye and say they all turn out great. You have every chance of getting a dud as you do for the average of the whole breed. Dogs are...

I think it's a symptom of the rot, this stupidity, that is becoming firmly entrenched in dogs in general, but sadly is making its way into gundogs, which is a shame as its hunters that get duped.

At present there is a litter of a particular versatile breed for $1800 a puppy. Am I wrong in saying that is ridiculous? Are there people willing to pay that much on what is essentially, a gamble? I...