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Oh fuk......just scored another own goal........:XD:

Fuk....ive been called 'scottish' & 'irish' and i didnt get a sausage!!!!!.....not even a pint!!!!!!!!.....now wheres that lawyers number?

Oh Kotuku.....mate.......if i could get all of that printed on a t-shirt i would mate.....priceless!!!!!!!!

Thanks for that reply Sidney, as you say the information is out there if you try, i obviously dont.....as you have already probably gathered im from the oldskool 'hang em high' philosophy......yeah,...

Sidney still waiting mate, you seem to be good at saying no to all suggestions/opinions, so what would you do?

If you agree (im still not sure) that the present system is not working, and in your view rehabilitation is the way forward and not primitive emotive responce...what would YOU change to get NZ out of...

Sidney lets hear your views on how we will make NZ into a crime free utopia

still waiting bro......

Oh well....looks like we will just have to agree to disagree........see you at the hanging, im bringing beer and cashews!!!!!!:thumbsup:

"The implication is that by being tougher, we would deter more offenders... that is not reality."..........err Sid, we KNOW that.....the crims KNOW that....we just want the 'shite' locked up and out...

"maybe the prisons are full because of tougher sentencing... that would seem a "sensible" conclusion?"

Oh Sid, had to come back in so all the 'pieces of shit' reading this on their laptops in...

Touche.....im going to leave this thread alone now, ive said my 2c.....maybe more!!!!!....everyone knows where i stand.....society will never change, neither will i.......

Oh come on Sid mate.....enough of the pseudo intellectual lawyer bollocks, first 'commensurate' twisted to serve your point of view, now youve hijacked 'sensible' from sensible sentencing........sure...

Sidney whats your opinion on the NZ based Sensible Sentencing Trust........if we have the lowest rate of serious offending and full prisons, why do you think victims families and concerned citizens...

Thanks Sydney, i totally understand & comprehend you reasoning......

Cheers Syd, if i may be so bold and ask what is your personal view on this, and not your legal view?

The whole point of this discussion, taking away the awful result of this persons action, is the fact that 'everybody' on this forum apart from Angus (to my knowledge) is in possesion of a FAL
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Sydney, thats because, to coin a phrase 'the laws an ass'.....i fully understand where you are coming from as regards the legal standpoint, the man in question has 'served' his punishment according...

Sydney....you assume a lot too......pot, kettle, black......i have my opinion, you have yours.....hope this person does not kill one of your family or friends if he is allowed his FAL back.........

'tell that to the dead mans widow and children' by scouser

i have to apologise for this statement i made, the victim was single, i got him mixed up with 'another' poor victim who was married with...

Sydney, no personal offence, i know your a lawyer or about to become one, but that is total shite.....this man had his chance, he blew it, i dont give two fucks about his civil liberties, tell that...

No way should he be allowed near a firearm again......we all know the 7 'commandments' and he has broken no1 in my book, after taking someones life, it should be written into the law, that he is...