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further to this -Iwas out on a scoot&shoot with a mate whose very conversant with thisDOC permit /rakaia rangitata issue . DOC have no concern with those riverbed areas so No permit required.we shot...

you obviously struck the new tertiary educated green loving binary confused green spotty herbert or the office spin doctor .ask to speak to the man who knows what hes talking about

I wouldnt push my luck with any of DOCS spotty herberts .Im civil to them if em on encounter ,ask what theyre up to and make sure we know who is where and usually Im armed!seems to work...