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Proper control training is where you start and then get out onto deer. Get them onto game, lead or not, before you have proper control will end in disaster every time.

Wont work, most agility reward is treats, when the agility trained dog goes hunting it won't care about the treats!

What if you are against them for effectiveness reasons and can gain control at a distance without the need for a device that has so many negative side effects?

Eebees has never shot a deer! :XD:

I agree, I went away from the Acme ones because damn near everyone who hunts with me uses one... sometimes dogs didn't know which way was up with three handlers all blowing a whistle of the same...

No, I have worked with too many dogs virtually psychologically destroyed by electricity to ever allow a dog to exposed to it, certainly not deliberately and have very strong methodology for dealing...

A whistle produces a sound, the dog then needs to associate an action with that sound. A whistle has little advantage, from a training point of view, to the voice, both are foreign to a dogs usual...

You might be misinterpreting "Positive Reinforcement"! All styles of training contain "Positive reinforcement" it is obvious to communicate with a dog that for it it to understand what was expected...

That's a pretty big exception Des. and your MOST is ALL as far as I am aware.

No I train them.

Let's not bullshit anyone. No dog gives a flying fox terrier about a vibrating collar. They react to that, or the sound, because of the electric shock administered directly after....

Yes you could try electrocuting it, (Oh sorry vibrating collar... how does it understand the vibration,.. oh yeah you shock the shit out of it first!) you could yell louder, you could give it a...