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Thanks Burb. Good to know and completely agree gimp, would made it near impossible. O well time to get a nice new safe. Any advice on where to buy a good E cat safe around chch?? rather it not be...

Was talking to someone the other day who said that both referees you put forward must also hold an E cat. Is this right? Sounds bloody tough to me. I wouldn't have anybody to testify for me in that...