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Agree, don't go with these as sub's to much chance of pencil thru - just like Sierra SMK's or FMJ's - good for punching paper that about it!

Invest in something soft with a healthy likelihood of...

Hmmmm will be very interested on terminal performance of the eld-x as as a sub based round as the Amax was primarily a "frangible" round caused by a high fps rate at POI. So how does that work...