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agree its like watching maimai with 5 people all empty berretta's/Benelli's at 4 mallards...20-25 shots later 3 drop.....if enough people think thats the normal way of doing things,the ammunition...

oh if only I COULD LIKE THAT MORE......like about 1000 times more,the dog gets a tiny bit of work in final 50 yards helping to locate animal...but in the thick crappy vine infested scratchy slippery...

pity this wasnt a poll...........purely to give newbe a chance to see some real world figures from fellas who arent still wet behind ears...counter the sales person hype or utube unreality shows.

sub 50 yards is the normal for me in the bush.....have shot less than a handful of fingers worth at over 300 yards...
looking forward to bagging one with open sights again...its been a LONG time...