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there IS data for the AS30N on ADI site....bingo.
will see if can find data for the AS50N aswell thanks MH....havent seen any yet.

awesome thanks..Bill has tried subsonic before and was VERY underwelmed..... I have two shotgun powders on hand...a 30 and a 50...no 70 buggeritall..... dont think they will work but will have a...

I will have to get some of the projectiles off you....and HOPEFULLY can borrow a set of dies for couple of weeks-month as local pighunter is down to 5 rounds....

if your current subsonic is already passing through,,upping weight wont help at all....it wont make any bigger hole or transpher anymore energy.... unless you hitting enough bone to slow it down/stop...