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What do they weigh ?

Both great ideas, will look into it today

Have decided on a 223 and now would like to find a rifle thats very small and light so i can fish rivers without it bulking up my pack

I don't mind modifying something to suit.

I have decided on a .223 with 55g Gamekings for this and will talk to Scott at SSRNZ.CO.NZ asap about an alloy receiver build.

So what calibre could theoretically be made the lightest?

A 223 ?

You don't need much of a stock

Im in the Kawekas right now looking for sika with dougie and west870mc and its cooling down, dry and dusty up here.
I'm wanting a light rifle to put in my pack so i have something to smack deer...

Thanks for that info ebf, shottie out of bounds also :(

But in a survival situation nobody would point the finger

Who makes the lightest single shot 410/20/12 gauge ?

Illegal for hunting in NZ ?

What is the lightest 44mag rifle availiable here?

I still think an uberlight 223 would be the most versatile, 2-7x33 leupold on top, mercator in pocket, start fishing/hunting !

That's a pity.

Gimp, If you take care of the design we can get it made easy enough

Bill, I doubt a rimfire is allowed on doc land without a permit.

Bill999, its going to sit in my pack as I fish the mid/upper Hawkes Bay and lower Wairarapa Rivers. Very handy to have.

ATM i use a model 7 and am interested in a lighter/less bulky alternative,...

I hear you there chris, my fathers ar 7 would occasionally fire two rounds with a touch of the trigger or just empty the mag in one continous rip.

That .410 would be handy gimp, slugs, buckshot and waterfowl/upland game loads----- hard to go hungry with that combo

Thats true Bill999, your comment shows just how far we have come in the last 5 years, I know I have personally learned a lot from the forum and had the same thoughts as yourself.

I'd also say New...

Goat culling in my teenage years was hard on .22 rimfires, usually the extractor failure preceded the accuracy decline but the result was always the same, into the offal hole it went.

For some...