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What sleeping bag have you got that takes up 20l!! :wtfsmilie: can't say I have measured mine but mines a macpac bag and it's prob 30cm by 10. Comparing it to a 3l juice bottle it's maybe 8 litres...

Polite thing is to take a pack liner as well :thumbsup: or buy one off them and get the pack somewhere else

Going through this myself now. 35l karramor with my twin needle belt under it (still hasn't arrived... Ordered over a month ago....) and binos harness on the front. Don't think I will quite fit...