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Sidney,

Fair summary of one take-home message of this thread. Pride before fall. Kick them or learn from them, can't do both.

video hunter,

Yes, wonder how you can even tell if something is a bullet hole in absence of powder residues or underlying damage to body or undergarments.

I'm left with an impression of...

Yes. Food for thought....

I believe persons with a police-cancelled license are forbiddcn from even using an air rifle under direct supervision. Someone pls correct me.

That settles it then.

dannyb
Moa Hunter just forgot to put in the @ sign - I'm not losing the plot. (-:

dannyb

Correction - that was a NON fatal accident.

Paddy79

Yes, if the shooter wasn't drinking. Except for former All Blacks of course.

Moa Hunter

I think you summarise quite well why I posted the images, thanks, but add an element of frustration. It was to stir up debate, because as pointed out above there's massive denial about...

Boaraxa

Sorry to have offended you, but mind your language if your kids are about on the forum. Mods, fine to blank the carnage images. This is what happens on roads but we take more note of...

Moa Hunter

Your Mrs too? My German taught me to drive better, she still does in fact....(-:

Moa Hunter,

Thanks, I agree handling errors are perhaps excusable if it is someone not licensed/trained in firearms handling, less so by a licensed person, but then again currently there has been...

Moa Hunter

I agree with your description of how things are currently viewed, but the current public, legal and court logic is wrong:

1. Gun purpose: kill animals, hole targets.
2. Car purpose:...

He heh, very funny mate. I'm not stopping anyone doing whatever erections they want. Just pointing out a known difficulty with gallows - if we build them we are not immune to later get put onto...

Moa Hunter

Yes. Maybe spelling out what "identify your target" means has more mileage in it. 'Identifying' a deer would include what sex it is.


scottyrees SiB systolic Gibo

In cheering...

Moa Hunter

Yes, the presumption of human till otherwise established seems correct, except hunters are tuned in to look for non-human targets, so it is as unnatural/non-intuitive as using your...

Solo

In deed, safety begins when we admit we are unsafe and fallible. Problem within that problem is that we treat hunters who do such things as criminals, and since WE are not criminals...

timattalon

Argument for driving license reinstatement is that people need to drive, it causes them hardship not to have a license, unable to work, do school run, take kids to violin lessons etc...

Question, do we know of ANYONE successfully applying for reinstatement of his FAL after being involved in an accidental shooting?

systolic,

Sure, the judge concluded he was not fit and proper, but chiefly based on an accident he was involved in 22yrs ago.

One thing is what the judge concludes, the other thing is what...

Frogfeatures

Yes, same here, plenty other hobbies to take up instead. Aren't we all glad this story is not about us.

Solo

A touch of witch dunking, perhaps? Should we expect him to round wearing a t-shirt with a picture of his victim?

He will NEVER be able to bring up the kid's name without massive...

Moa Hunter

Yes, Abe, a very interesting character with dark sides that just go to make his good side shine. Actually he also left fake letters about to slander people, at least in his younger...

Blisters

You are like Abraham Lincoln. He would write really nasty letters, drop them in his desk drawer, and discard them the next day once he'd calmed down.

Of course, once he had his...

What could his maximum penalty be for giving up on the system and going hunting with no FAL / hunting permit? Kiwi Gun Blog has plenty examples of wet bus tickets.