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Walker, there are two nodes with 2217 and 140’s commonly reported. One at around 54/55 and the other two grains higher. I’m loading 54 at the moment. This node appears broad, up to 55.5 in my rifle....

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Stag, Yes typo, 48.5 not 58.5! I went up to 50 grains of 2209 and 51 of 2213 with both 140 A max and Berger VLDs.

VLDs shot a bit better for me then. 2209 loads were starting to show pressure...

Stag,
If my memory is good you went up to about 51.5 gns of 2209 and 53.5 gns of 2213 behind a 140 A max. I pushed up to your loads but they were too hot for me.

I built one some years ago probably 12-13 after reading Stags posts re his “heavy field gun”. Mines regular weight. I found his loads very hot in my rifle. 2209 at 58.5 drives a 140 VLD at 2850 from...