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It was never going to be put up for this years gazette. The rules for this year were made in December. The sub gauge decision wasn't till February just been with the intention of being set next...

Gadgetman, I don't intend to keep going on with a tit for tat like your so keen on. It doesn't matter what I say you'll not believe it.

Like I said if you feel its wrong write to the minister,...

Wirehunt, in many places the ban is for all game bird hunting. One state apparently has reverted back to lead in forested areas for hunting pheasants, not waterfowl, due to the issue with steel shot...

How's this? This is from the lengthy F & G paper produced at the time of the changeover. I suggest for the full report you contact you local office and ask for it. Alternatively PM me your email...

Gadgetman, there is no need to. You and others on here know this was done by F & G in the late 90's when the issue was first raised by the anti-duck hunting lobby. If you think this wasn't the case...

Toby, I don't have the numbers but if your suggesting its a fallacy then perhaps you should write to the minister and ask for 12 gauge lead to be reintroduced?

Not one country in the world has...

Shooters wound ducks, not the shot itself. Shooters wounded ducks with lead also. If your wounding more now your doing something wrong. This can be changed, its up to the shooter.

Regardless of...

Wad Wizard Choke Tubes - Shotgun Choke Tube System :)

Patterns beautifully, not sure about the whole shot stringing theory however ;)

1. None of the submissions provided any reason for adults to continue with lead. Juniors were exempted as a result of the submissions received.

2. I'm a little suspect about how honest people may...

Remove a scientifically proven poison from duck habitat for the benefit of the duck. That is all.

Why do you think we're doing it?

We have no idea because no one counted ducks like they do now. The counts only go back 20 years sorry.

On the subject of steel R93 I can honestly say I have no problem with it. I use a wad wizard choke which I believe helps and am a reasonable shot I feel which helps also.

What isn't known amongst...

I'll leave you guys to your caveman ways I think. In the meantime as I've demonstrated what we're doing, why don't you ask what your own councils are doing about the decline, you know what we're...

Yes it does Pointer. Because of that Southland put up a proposal for a national research program around mallards. We proposed to put up $100k each year for three years if matched by some other...

If by the other side you mean FNH theres no documentation there. Put up a link please if you can.

Thats why we're taking measures now Pointer, we've seen the results in other areas of waiting too long. While it may not be popular its for the ducks that we're doing this. Like most regions we've...

Why will they stop? The performance in their minds of steel or the price of it?

Sorry to KWB, its the other one, Tube :)

I haven't seen anyone from Southland have a go at us yet , just the usual suspects from other regions ;)

And no I don't know that there is ample...

Thats a worry then, their time will come.

Are you talking 12 or 20 gauge?

If someone can explain to me how to upload a document I can put up the paper from when the initial research was done. I can't find it on a website to put up a link.

R93, chill bro. People may care...

Wirehunt, you possibly have missed the last 10 years of lobbying by F & G about waterways which are the responsibility of regional councils. Everyone knows of the term dirty dairying, that was...

Our rangers are very active down here and we unfortunately have a very high non compliance rate. We're still having guys caught on opening shooting lead through 12 gauges FFS! The only way for them...

KWB, I see you've joined another forum on which to talk your dribble. As said previously to you, if you've got some evidence to the contrary of all the F & G research as well as the overseas based...

Sub Gauge Exemption to Lead shot - a report on the research and consultation completed in the Southland region in late 2012.

The Southland Council is considering the final stage in the non-toxic...