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Yeah but dropping primers is a brass pressure issue too... enlarged primers pockets...

I have a hard job believing that there were no other signs in the Kirby example... before damage occurred......

I wouldn't have a clue what pressures I run my rifles at. Most are sorted at 2 grains less than first signs of pressure on new brass. (I don't load more than 55grains of capacity at the moment) ...

This whole thing seems a bit chicken or egg to me...

I think that applying an arbitary pressure across all actions/barrels/calibres as being a safe do not exceed could be sensible for the great...

So who does?

Well actually he had increasing bolt lift problems... as a result of increasing headspace... that would be pressure and brass wouldn't it

well..... which came first....??

brass signs or...

How many other commercial action manufacturers have published the failure points for their actions? Or barrel manufacturers for that matter?

Is pressure signs in brass not evident before damage to...

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OK so what the limit.... in your gun

Do you not follow the tried and accepted practice of loading up incrementally until the first signs of pressure and then backing off a subjective safe amount?

OK seeing as my last post was to long winded.... let me have another go...

The suggestion is that good brass because it is stronger does not show the signs of pressure in a strong action.

If...

OK I have seen this discussion going on for a while and not being an expert I would like to make a couple of observations and ask a couple of questions.

With any cartridge, whether a known...