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Anyone here reload 12ga target or birdshot with home-cast slugs (thinking Lee 7/8 or 1oz slugs), I know there's a ton of info out there on the net, just wondering if anyone around here was into it?
I'm into AKs and shoot a heap of cheap 7.62x39 at the range but wanted to try something different like a Saiga 12 and have some fun with slugs.
Someone else here was asking the same thing not long ago. I think it was Tertle...
Cheers, I did try a search first but didn't find anything relevant
If it is any help. I was loading 1oz Lyman slugs in 12g. I was using a standard shotgun press set up for birdshot (lead) and instead of the 1oz shot I loaded the 1oz slug. The slugs looked more like a large air rifle pellet and seemed to work Ok, but accuracy was only really effective to a range of about 50 metres.
I've done it, went out and brought about 6 different boxes of 1oz target shells, took out the shot and used it to cast 1oz slugs using the Lee mould, found which shot best and then did a slab of them (was Falcon Olympic 28 from memory).
Basically just picked open the star crimp, poured out the shot, used it to cast the slugs, trimmed off about 2/3 of the star crimp, used a socket to press the remaining flap back in (sort of like a budget roll crimp) then pushed the slug in - sits in there quite firmly, although have only used in a 870 pump action not sure if a semi would move them around.
Accuracy wise they were OK to about 50mtrs, good enough for fun on the range and alot cheaper than buying slugs (depending on how much you value your time at) all in all was fun and will do some more over winter I reckon
Ben-tard that's exactly what I was after! I have an 870 myself so will have a go and perfect this method as you have described.
Hmmm have brought a few slugs in the past, expensive much! Was watching a fellow in the us lasting away with his 870 with slugs having a hoot of a time, might look into this over winter myself. Often wondered how slugs would go on whitetail.... Not on doc land obviously
Did the same exactly but with a side by side shortened the barrels by 6 inches and fitted express sights. A poor mans double rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-tard
Shoots both barrels inside 2 inches at 50 yds. Deadly for goats.
Hey Ben where did you get the Falcon Olympic 28 from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-tard
Sellior and Bellot does a slug load at $46 ish for 25 rounds. South Island these are available from Smiths City. Not sure but anywhere that carries Sellior and Bellot should be good. Slabs should be cheaper........
Thanks @7mmwsm i saw that hand roller crimper just yesterday on eBay, quite affordable too. I think I'll try a couple of boxes to get the hang of it and use on the 870, then when I get a Saiga 12 I'll do a couple of cases once I know what it will cycle well on, apparently they can be a bit fussy especially low brass loads etc
GunworksQuote:
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Nice one cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-tard
Thought about doing it this way but wasn't sure there would be enough shell left to do a roll crimp on. Will have to get a roll crimper and give it a go as prying open the star crimps gets to be a pain after a couple of boxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Not sure what speed the Falcon Olympics were doing but they had one of the higher advertised FPS of the stuff I tried, only really looked at around the $90 - $100 a slab mark. Being kiwi made nudged me in there direction
Yes I'd imagine prying open the crimp would get a bit tedious after a while. With 7mmwsm's method you could use this simple cutting device.
Mountain storm crimp cutter, I like his ingenuity
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cBYTndcNhm4/hqdefault.jpg
Yeah, that is a nice solution. When prying the crimps open I put the shell in a bit of PVC pipe cut to length so just the crimp was sticking out, helped support the sides of the shell. Should work as a guide for cutting too
Have just ordered one of those Russian hand roll-crimpers from E-bay, will be interesting to see how it goes. Should save a bit of time cutting the star crimp off and roll crimping vs prying star open and trimming with a scalpel cheers@7mmwsm
Oops meant cheers @7mmwsm
I'll have to get one too, need to get a Lee slug mold too and some sort of cast pouring ladle, where's a good place to get one of those?
Fishing shops should have lead ladles.Quote:
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I got both from ReloadersQuote:
Originally Posted by leighos
Lee Single Cavity Mold 12 Gauge 1oz Slug 90281 - Bullet Casting - Reloading - Reloaders Supplies Ltd
They have the 7/8 oz mold as well (same price)
Is this ladle they have big enough to smelt and pour 1oz?
http://www.reloaders.co.nz/shop/Relo...ead+Ladle.html
Sounds like everything else I've bought from RussiaQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Yup, that's the one I've got. I just used an old pot and a cheap gas burner from Mitre 10 to melt it, then that ladle to scoop and pourQuote:
Originally Posted by leighos
Awesome thanks mate, time to go shoppingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben-tard
Sweet, let us know how you get on.
Just watched the youtube vid of that mountain storm tool, had assumed it cut in from the side but see now that it cuts down from the top, looks like you could just use that tool and not bother with a roll crimper.
Might be teaching gran to suck eggs but - make sure you've got good ventilation when melting down your shot, stuff can be nasty. I used a fan over top of the pot and a breathing mask thingo, long sleeves and eye protection is the go too
From left to right that is: big ol' pile of 1oz slugs, .224 75gr Amax, .264 140gr Amax & 1oz slug :thumbsup:
Nice one mate, can't wait to give it a try. What ammo are you going to use for your next batch?
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I find the idea of these bolo rounds fascinating, if I was loading slugs Id do a couple of these to try out.
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I was until I saw this high speed camera footage of how they actually workQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonW
https://youtu.be/Fj5XGfXwnZc
Probably just go with the falcon Olympics againQuote:
Originally Posted by leighos
Maybe a dyneema tether would work better than that wire holding them together.Quote:
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@leighos - I ended up getting some Eley Olympic Blues to try instead of the falcons... might have been a mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben-tard
Still waiting for my roll crimper to arrive but cut one of the Eley's open for a look and I don't think it will be able to take a roll crimp without trimming the petals as they sit right up under the existing star crimp, the falcons had about 5-6mm of side wall above the wad after trimming (due to a shorter wad I guess)
Have u guys tried cut shells
