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After opinions on the best performer on deer, reds and fallow out of the 175 eldx or 180 eldm in 7mm at around 3000fps.
I've had a bit of search and haven't come up with much anyone got any real world experience with either ?
Cheers
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If there is a chance you will be shooting big animals up close (under 100y) I would probably use the eldx but as long as you avoid bone up close the eldm will perform fine.
The eldx might be a bit hard on smaller fallow too but again shot placement and range can mitigate this
The 162 amax at that speed is a real killer, the eldm will be similar in construction but the extra mass would stop them blowing up too soon.
Funny we were just talking about them this morning :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stug
Iv used both and wont use the old again have had no issues up close with the 180 I had some fantastic skills with the old but some less than spectacular pencil threws sub 300 both were ran at 3060fps
Auto correct seems to think I mean old but I it's wrong ELDX
Cheers Stug I've shot a poltice of animals with the 162 at all sorts of speeds up to 3250 but specifically after info on the above as there the factory rounds I have for the 7mm prcQuote:
Originally Posted by stug
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I have no experience with 7mm eldm/x but used both in 30 cal and my vote is with the eldm (assuming they behave the same between 7mm & 30 cal). 200gr eldx @ 2870 killed well at distance (im talking 450m+) but much closer than that it would often pencil straight through even putting them into solid shoulder bone on fairly big animals. Ive found the 178gr ELDM @ 3060 much more effective does just as well at distance (maybe not real far out but inside 700m) but more importantly it works alot better than the ELDX at closer distances (2-300 type thing). Even hitting shoulder bone i havent had any blow ups and its put down 6 deer in a row now without them moving more than a step. When i was using the ELDX i shot a sika spiker through both front shoulders but it didnt hit anything super solid, pencilled through and the little prick made it over 150m before expiring. However i run 143gr ELDX in my 6.5 creedmoor & havent had any issues even sub 100m shots tend to anchor them on the spot for the most part. Maybe the jacket is thinner / slightly different design in the 6.5 cal projectiles.
Unlike the 162 eldm @3000fps the 180 works well up close due to its extra weight. Great out far too.
Haven't used the 175 to be able to comment
Agree with the team on the 180 ELD-M.
I use them in my 7RM at a mild 2840.
BC is huge so they don’t need to screaming.
Cheers looks like the 180 for the win
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180eldm is a hammer. Seen them run at 3050-3100 and are phenomenal killers
Load 180 eldm in my mates rem mag. They are hammers.
The 180s from phils blazer mag was punching holes in the gongs at 200y was it? Dam that gun could shoot.
Mate shot a bull tahr at 900m with a 180eldm doing 3000fps. Bangflop
Yeah mate used them on tahr out to over 1100 and they were still incredible at that rangeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuckerbox
Look up who tee who on youtube he just did a film on eldx and eldm out of a mossberg 7mm prc this week. In the weights you asked
Eld-x seem to be unreliable in performance, a couple guys I know who I know can shoot very well, have killed animals from 50 to 600yards with eld-x, and then also from 50 to 600 yards hit animals, found blood, and not found the animal after tracking for hundreds of meters. I’ll run 175 elite hunters out of my 7 prc, and then switch to 180 eld-m when I can’t get Berger’s anymore
Cant say I've ever experienced that, have shot quite a few reds and fallow with eldx never lost 1and all have been bang flop results :ORLY:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus
Ranges from less that 20y to 500y
I have used 180s in the Blaser mag for the last couple of years and they have always performed
I did load up some 175 eldx for up close in the bush but never shot anything with them :)
Any corresponding views on 180g Sierra Matchkings?
Iv had it a fair bit with 162 in 7rm 175 in 7blaser mag 200 and 212 in 300wm had some absolute stunning kills aswell but a at least 10 as decribed above sub 300Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Yea I’ve never had an issue with them, 145 eld x out of 270. The guys I know that have had hit and miss performance from them aren’t an isolated case either, there is a fair bit of info on the net regarding bullet failures of the eld x. That said, I have heard a theory that they are designed more for American game and our red stags are about the smallest animal the bullet was designed for 🤷🏼*♂️
I think velocity has a bit to do with it, up close if doing warp 9 I have heard they can be a little explody, personally haven't had that issue as the only animals I've shot close were shot in the head, where even a fmj would've done the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus
I'm about to trial the 178gn eldx in my 308, have heard good things about them. Currently running 168gn eldm's and they aso seem to work pretty well.
I think heavy for caliber mitigates the impact velocity at close range whilst still carrying ample energy and velocity for longer range shots.
Im a huge fan of the 168 in .308 i run 42 and 42.6 of 2206h fed 210s and win cases and with 178 eldm 41.4 of 2206h fed 210 win casesQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Yip i always put it down to to fast as never had issues out far i also had them kill brilliant up close it was the inconsistency that got me lost aninals were stags so shoulder shots and front on in the chest
7mm Rem Mag, 180 eldms at just 2970 fps. Has pummeled everything from stalking ranges out to 800y aside from a bull Tahr couple of weeks ago. Hurried shot 100 yards quartering away. Broke offside shoulder but was able to keep moving. Needed a follow up. Shot placement wasn't perfect however
What twist barrel does your rem mag have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Project17
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Yip being guilty of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Project17
If it helps my mate runs them in his Sako finnlight at the same velocity they are brilliant I have seen him sack reds at sub 100 yards out to over 600yardsQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
Standard Sako 1:9.5?
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if that's what the finnlight comes with then yes, his rifle is factory standard barrelQuote:
Originally Posted by Dicko
All Sako 7mm barrels are 1:9.5 regardless of case size I think.
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