30 cal sabots??

Ive toyed with this as an idea do any of you guys use them whats your experiences or thoughts
ive coppied this off of someones TM listing

sabots for a 30 cal rifle
they use a 22 cal projectile (I use 55 gn vmaxs) pressed into the sabot.photos of bullets are a 223 and a 30 06 using same projectile. the 30 06 is traveling about 4200 fps
They are like a wad in a shotgun and separate as it leaves the barrel

here is a few est muzzle velocity
.300 win mag 4400 fps
3006 4200 fps
308 win 3800 fps
30 30 win 3500 fps

Would they very accurate or just be flying shrapnel at high speed?

I've got some loaded for my 308 but am yet to give them a go. i've got some 50 grain nosler shots and some 75 grain A-Max's loaded up. Not sure if the A-Max ones will stabilise in a 1-10 twist 308 barrel though.

it's a nice day here today and i need something to do, so might head out this afternoon and give them a try.

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Originally Posted by lostlegend

I've got some loaded for my 308 but am yet to give them a go. i've got some 50 grain nosler shots and some 75 grain A-Max's loaded up. Not sure if the A-Max ones will stabilise in a 1-10 twist 308 barrel though.

it's a nice day here today and i need something to do, so might head out this afternoon and give them a try.

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would be interested in your results im considering them for my 300WM woundering how to determin how much powder to use ??????
off ADI web
bullet powder req velo max velo
110 AR2213SC 24" 79.0 3355 - 84.0 C 3540
150 AR2213SC 24" 73.0 3025 - 78.0 3210 -
165 AR2213SC 24" 72.0 2935 - 75.5 3055 - ???????????????????????????

i can't remember how much i put in mine, i think they are loaded to the start of the shoulder.

Iv got a bag of them that Ill not likely use

they are hit and miss from what Iv gathered some guns are accurate with them some arnt

I cant be bothered with them to be honest

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Originally Posted by geezejonesy

would be interested in your results im considering them for my 300WM woundering how to determin how much powder to use ??????
off ADI web
bullet powder req velo max velo
110 AR2213SC 24" 79.0 3355 - 84.0 C 3540
150 AR2213SC 24" 73.0 3025 - 78.0 3210 -
165 AR2213SC 24" 72.0 2935 - 75.5 3055 - ???????????????????????????

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Weight both the Sabot and the projectile, then add the two weights together for a total.
Using the total weight consult your reloading book, you would use a slightly faster burn powder than normally used for that weight id say, at a guess as there is next to no friction (compared to a copper jacketed projectile) from that delrin Sabot slipping down the bore.

Accuracy could be a bit hit or miss :)

I used some many years ago in a 308 (55gr 224 cal sabot) I wouldn't get to excited if your a varmint shooter as accuracy was only about 1 1/2 MOA, but on goats they were great.;)

I bought a bag of 30 cal sabots years ago when I had a couple of M1 Carbines. I think I was using .223 40 grain VMAX's in an attempt to varmint-up an M1. I vaguely recall it being a wasted effort.

I put some over the crony through my RUM. Over 5k IIRC
No accuracy at all hahaha

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Originally Posted by Spanners

I put some over the crony through my RUM. Over 5k IIRC
No accuracy at all hahaha

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lol thats almost as fast as rushy well his wit anyway :P

haven't had a chance to try the ones i have loaded yet, as the weather gods keep screwing things up.

I tried them in a Winchester Featherweight.
Accuracy was abysmal nearly did my head until whacked a couple deer loads through and realised it wasnt me.
Did make a mess of a hare once but to be honest could have whacked with my .22

I used some years ago. Hard to get load info. Accuracy nothing special. The sabots kill chronographs!

I tried a couple in my 300 RUM
4700 IIRC - just used the load for the 200grs so wasnt very optimised

I tried the Rem factory ones and gave them up as a lost cause , you can use teflon plumbers tape to take a standard projectile to the next bore size ie 7mm to 30 cal , I think it is a waste of time also and a bit risky but it does work , the tape spins off at the muzzle.

Where would i get hold of 30cal sabots for reloading?

found some trade me

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