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    Quote Originally Posted by tui_man2 View Post
    Nice facts. . . . . .

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    I've got nothing to prove and am happy with the performance and results etc - thus no need to get into a pissing match on the data if anyone wants to disagree.
    Was simply pointing out it was in the regions of normal loading for the case.

    You may have noticed that I generally don't post any loads online unless they are pretty std like 125gr 9mm, 55gr 223, 150/168 308.
    That's 3 calibers from the 30? I load - all for good reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by R93 View Post
    No. A bit more to it than that. And safer.
    I think it was meant to be a question of how he achieved this. Not anything more.


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    Yea i get that but then stated that this is how its done nothing more nothin less

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    People other than enthusiasts read these threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanners View Post
    I've got nothing to prove and am happy with the performance and results etc - thus no need to get into a pissing match on the data if anyone wants to disagree.
    Was simply pointing out it was in the regions of normal loading for the case.

    You may have noticed that I generally don't post any loads online unless they are pretty std like 125gr 9mm, 55gr 223, 150/168 308.
    That's 3 calibers from the 30? I load - all for good reason
    Thats cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildman View Post
    Anyone object to me tidying this thread a bit?
    No please tidy this up. It has gone down the shitter with a big handful of paper to block up all reason on the follow through

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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Yea i get that but then stated that this is how its done nothing more nothin less

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    I did say few mods......never said what

    Trying to put words in my mouth?

    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    People other than enthusiasts read these threads.

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    And? i never said for people to add powder to get safe............anyone with brains would know not to take a load of the internet........was putting the facts there
    Now on i should follow others like sheep an post x speed for x chambering
    So heres one 17 fireball poking a 200gr at 3200 its ok tho its nice hard brass

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    Oh Fuck it i can't work out how to put multiple quotes in.

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    Cam. I think a bit of deep throat will explain it for ya.

    Or read the first few sentences of this link.

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    I wonder why he calls it a plus 'P' I reckon Cam knows more about this than he is letting on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Normie View Post
    Cam. I think a bit of deep throat will explain it for ya.

    Or read the first few sentences of this link.

    338 Edge + P now available from Defensive Edge - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine
    Or more specifically

    Firearm Throat and Rifling Method - Patent application

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    So if you are not getting deformation to hard brass, you are not getting deformation to the action...whats the problem? Why the issue with quality brass not showing signs of pressure/deformation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    So if you are not getting deformation to hard brass, you are not getting deformation to the action...whats the problem? Why the issue with quality brass not showing signs of pressure/deformation?
    Is this not hiding it?

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    Yeah its hiding it to a degree. But if you change to harder brass and pressure signs are not appsrant I would say you would be a mile of reaching pressure that could damage yout action.

    Brass fails over time right? Say 5-10 loadings. Would a action fail over time?

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    Of course... but everyone talks about pressure when surely all that this is, is the cause of what we are trying to avoid... deformation. Tussocks point is valid its pressure/time = force which causes deformation which is what we are trying to avoid.

    Pressure in itself is only a component of the destructive force that we are trying to avoid... it would seem not sufficient to just be talking about pressure, particularly as we cannot reliably quantify it, and we do not know the strength of every firearm/action/brass being used and we have little idea over what time that the pressure is being applied...

    No deformation = no issue yes? I do acknowledge that the harder/better quality brass tends to be less progressive in showing deformation..... its good, its good, its good/its really bad ... and this is an issue..
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    And ALLLLL this shit is what Roy Weatherby learnt yonks ago leading him to spec those long throats on his high pressure weatherby chamberings

    Those same long throats that are considered a "problem" by lots of shooters because they cant load projectiles to "just touch" the lands so have terrible accuracy (there are a shitload of take off weatherby mk5 barrels floating around) (there are also plenty of people who cant shoot a .308 accurately let alone a .30-378) (there are also plenty of rifles which shoot MINT with long throats and massive jumps).

    And now its all "new" and "secret squirrel" because blah blah blah

    Yawn
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