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Hey there
I am looking for some advice on where to source 300BLK Projectiles and powder ...
I am after some cheaper projectiles just for range use and then some projectiles for hunting ..then I guess some for subsonic use ...
Info on barrel ... 16" .. 1/7 Twist
If you have any advice ,could you post links to items/prices please/
Thanks in advance
Seano
Suggestions I've gone with....
Have an almost exact match set up 16.2" 1:7 twist Ruger American Ranch.
ADI 2205 Powder 17gr with 125 Nosler Hunting (spitzers), Federal match primers (small) gets you to 2170 fps. Not too fast that the rounds pencil through. I've been told the Speer 300cal round that has the big wide hole oin the front is a really good one to use also
Subs Trying some Lehigh Max expansion Goat @#&%$@'s 196gr 9gr of 2205 same set up as above... Fun but very expensive !!!
There's a guy in Tokoroa doing 220 gr plinking rounds for .25c each which you should get onto and a guy on Tard me selling cheap brass.
Those are probably the important bits...
Hi Seano, powder selection seems to be a problem at the moment in NZ, i use n110 for my subs and 2205 for the supers. 2205 looks like it is available and is good to use for the lighter subs but is great for 125bt supers around 18gr but you will have to work out the load for your rifle( mine is an AR 13.5in barrel 1 in 8.5 and suppressor).
Gunworks seem to have 2205 and have 110gr rn carbine bullets for sale @ $25 for 100, they should feed fine but you never know. Some times on tardme you can pick up old lots of heavy 30cals cheap but this cartridge is getting popular so get in quick.
The BT's($50 for 50) are good for hunting and will take out a large undisturbed deer, as for the sub hunting 240gr sierra MK($60 for 50) have worked well for me in the past as with my rifle combo they are a bit unstable and tumble violently on impact, other users have had them pencil through(remmy bolt gun 1 in 7 20" barrel).
I have loaded up some Lehigh 168cf bullets($103 for 50) and they look to be the business with large cavities in wet cardboard and exploding milk containers ( not like the shotgun slug though ) they are like a little hand grenade after 4" of penetration.
A great fun caliber to shoot, enjoy.
lehigh for subs , Barnes 110 grn blk for hunting lil gun powder for all.The 240grn smk's were the worst grouping of all the subs I tried.1:8 twist 12" match barrel
Good luck getting lil gun I've been on the waiting list for 5 months - hence using the 2205 - Same manufacturer i think...
Yes gotta try the Barnes 110's just haven't found any up here!
Speer Bullets - Product Details
Speer 130griners shoot accurately and are good for goats at 300aac velocities.
If you want some cheap plinkers and range ammo 147g ADI/Military projectiles are good to go.
240grain match kings shoot accurately at sub sonic velocities but are very expensive.
lil gun is good stuff, ADI now has loading data but I haven't tried it yet.
Thanks for your input fella's :thumbsup: gives me a few things to look into.
Just thought Id ask about using "TrailBoss" for Sub's .... or would this not be a good idea ?
Cheers again in advance
No need, trail boss is used to take up room in a case there is not that much when you put a 220-240 grn projectile in a 300 aac case hence why this calibre is good at subs and supersonics.
I have Brass ordered for next week,will also be looking at buying a range of projectiles,powder & Dies next week or so...
Just got back from the range testing some loads. Had a few old 150gr SST collecting dust and loaded them up going subsonic with a 2" group at 100m, needs more tweaking and some Nosler 125gr BT @ 1990 fps with a 1/4" group at 100m so got that load sorted at last. Also shot some steel out to 400m with the 125 BT for sh#ts and giggles and got 5" 10 shot group but had some a bit of wind. I didn't want to waste to many subs will leave them for hunting until I get some more heavy 30 cal pills. The mrs was 30m behind me with the dog and she thought I was chucking stones at the 100m target because it was so quiet.
I have only tried ADI 2205 powder at the moment but keen to try W296/H110 and Trail Boss.
New 300 BLK update after a few days at the range.
Finally got some accurate loads going, it has taken a lot of mucking around with different seating and charge weight, mainly because I wanted my rifle to shoot every projectile I have tried.
150gr SST @ 1060 fps 1" group at 100m ( very quiet )
125gr BT @ 2050 fps 4" group at 400m (shooting steel) swapped the Aimpoint for a Nightforce
208gr A-Max @ 1060 fps .9" group at 100m ( still more work needed )
230gr OTM @ 1000 fps .75" group at 100m
194gr Lehigh ME @ 1060 fps .5 group at 100m
This target was a 5 shot, prone off a bipod in a forestry and using a 4MOA Aimpoint. The sight is zeroed for 60m as most animals are within that distance. So had to aim high and had to put the bottom of the red dot on the top of the target page.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...psqa4oqxlm.jpg
Nice, it's always good when you get your rifle shooting like that Tikka, The velocity spread on the lehigh load is impressive are you preparing your brass any particular way? I was loading the 168 lehighs and could not get them to shoot to well went back to full thickness neck and annealed and the velocity came down to a reasonable spread. Shooting the 125BT today at 300y like you 2050fps, shot into 18inches of wet cardboard to see if it penciled through or not pleasantly surprised by the force of impact and the cavitation caused, on impact the 125BT only has about 550ft-lbs and about 1400fps so i wasn't sure if it would expand or not.In about 4inches the bullet opened up into a "wound" channel about the size of a beer bottle and fragmented with penetration the full 18inches.
Anyway good shooting thanks for posting any results, this is a versatile caliber when you know what it can do.
Cheers
Far out that's some awesome shooting..Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka
It's such a fantastic little cartridge, you will find it hard to match those sub loads with other large center fire cartridges.
What an outstanding bit of shooting! Would you care to share the ogive length or OAL of the rounds? Are you crimping?Quote:
Originally Posted by tikka
I haven't had a chance to do much shooting lately but a mate of mine said he is definitely getting better accuracy after crimping. Both on subs and supers. I am not loading anymore til the crimp arrives in a week or two.
ODL if you are using a Lee crimp die , you may want to crimp it twice , & spin the case a little , so you get crimp all the way around , as the Lee die has been split 4 ways , and leaves 4 little un-crimped sections on your brass case .
I use a Lee crimp die very lightly on my 22 Hornet cases , works well .
Also isnt Lapua making 300BLK brass now ?
Later Chris
seano...gunworks have a heap of great stuff all sorts of sample packs aswell as wee powder samples trail boss there too.
Hi ODL,Quote:
Originally Posted by ODL
Set the Lehigh 194gr ME 2.270 OAL and are not crimped as it is a bolt gun. Not really doing anything special to the 5.56 LC cut brass except weighing them in two lots heavy and light weight cases and cleaning primer pockets/flash holes for each reload.
Here is the best 100m target from this mornings testing, Hornady 150gr SST/ 9.9gr adi 2205, OAL 2.260
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps4kk0nfjf.jpg
This is the rig.
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...psqkmvsze5.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...pstoichkek.jpg
My first batch of 300blk reloads starting load , 235gr cast projectile 11gr adi 2205 . OAL 2.260
Can't wait til get rifle back from gunsmith ,fitted with new suppressor & adjustable gasblock Attachment 36362
@seano those look like the Tokoroa terrors I PM'd you about....
In case you hadn't seen it lead cast bullets are now getting coated and they are seeing interesting results.
Don't know anyone bringing these in @ODL But might be a good alternative for 300 users out there plinking away...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGDenUyinAc
Just a thought...
yea sow some zombie loads cast with green poly??? type coating cheap as chips too.
Cheers for the info Tika. I will try that length next time around. Nice rifle setup!
I wasn't aware of the 4 marks, ChrisF. The ones a mate sent me for trial don't have anything visible except a very small (.5mm) swage visible. Maybe he already did this. I will be loading in a dillion and wasn't planning on running through the die twice. I will have to suck it and see.
My brass is mostly cut down 556 with no annealing.
You're loading to a tool head length on a Dillon - a Lee crimp die is a really shit way of doing things. Added load and shorter/oversized cases when a case isn't in the crimp station.
Change it out to a taper crimp die and forget about it.
I've loaded 1000s of 300BLK on a Dillon
Hi Seano ,what mold are those made on?? Biggest common .308 molds are about 200 grain.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano
Lee is making a mould for heavy bullets . Not mentioning all the other custom moulds here...for the blackout
Hey @300CALMANQuote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Not too sure of the molds etc ... but here is a link to where you can source them from
300 BLK 235gr Cast Projectile | Trade Me
Hey @300CALMANQuote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Not too sure of the molds etc ... but here is a link to where you can source them from
300 BLK 235gr Cast Projectile | Trade Me
@seanoFound the mould https://www.facebook.com/appcastingco#
i would love one of those 6 projectile molds. they have a nice 5.56/75 grain one also. Doesn't seem to have been much activity on their FB page, maybe they have stopped making molds? still $15 for 50 is not bad. I love casting but my two cavity lee mould is a slow way to make 195 grainers. they shoot OK but dont feed as well as pointed bullets.
311 247Gr. FN 2 cavity PB w/HP (Whisper), NOE Bullet Moulds
I might try and get one of these, if they will open at sub sonic velocities they will be deadly.
Where are you guys getting the Leigh bullets from. May have to dust off my 30/223 if these bullets are readily available.
Ps. That red dot sight is a great idea for a sub sonic rifle as shooting ranges are normally very close. Will do that to mine next.
Kj
Available from @ODL in Tauranga or on their website. Pricey but very good... Could send you a couple to try if you like? If you do PM me got a few out in the garage at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimjon
I cast them, you can have some if you want. Just PM me.
