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Here's a blast from the past that I picked up recently. Built on a p14 action in a bsa stock. All in good condition. It has a 26inch barrel with a 1in 12 twist. I'm waiting for some dies to arrive to shoot it. Wondering if the cartridge is suitable for trimming the barrel to 18 inches or if 20 would be better.
Anyone shooting one of these aussie legends?
Not got one but that one sure looks good, should be quite effective.
Yeah, its built for 87gr with the 12 twist barrel though have read that the short 100gr go ok as well.
heaps better nick stock than my project-nice rifle.
It's an intresting cartidge designed for roo shooting. Mate had one for a few years roughly the same performance as 257Roberts. Most of the load data comes from Nick Harvey.
What's your project smiffy?
Walker, do you if your mate shot 100gr in it?
I guess first edition nick harvey manual would be the go. Other users had recommended using the higher end of 250 savage or lower 257 bob data.
leave it long.....velocity is your friend...if you want a short range rifle buy an old .303brit.... at least untill you find out what she will do as it is.....
When you have a fired case from the rifle fill it with water and weight it (make sure you strike the neck off level) and give me the case length and COAL you're working to and I'll run it in Quickload for you. I had one (based on SMLE) some years ago but it wasn't accurate enough to be interesting. Your one looks as if it might shoot a lot better. Once the quickload data is in thats the time to see how trimming the barrel would change things.
Cool, thanks. I have a feeling it will suffer like a 243 if lopped too short. I'm saying that I only need it out to 150 200m max and it weighs 8 1/2lb as is
weight is a pain to carry but good for everything else.... you might be able to get away with only 3 baffles with a DPT and still be comfortable without being silly long. maybe all 5 for range work but if shoots to same POI take 2 out for bush work (Im happy enough to hunt bush bare barrel if its too thick).
Yeah, thanks
MD..I'm thinking 20inches bare might be good. Will take up tentmans offer of the quickload projection as well.
Looks like a rebarreled BSA Model E. They did a few of these in Aussie.
It has E stamped in a few places...I thought that was eddystone...good spotting!
Hi there,I have one and love it no4mk1 87gn and 2209
Cool, do the 87gr go alright on deer and pigs? Ever tried any 100gr?
87 gn Hornadys are a carnitas pill, very soft. You need to go to 100s for medium game. 87 s are great on skippies.
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Should read varmit pill.
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Yep, 100's it is. I have read people stabilising the sierra pro hunters ok.
Gotta watch out for those carnitas though aye.
Cheers Dicko
I've had pretty good results (on Reds, Fallow and Tahr) with 100 Gn Pro Hunters in my 250 Savage, which will be pushing them out the same or a wee bit less than your 303-25
Cool to see an old school cal bought back to life I like the older stuff
Sorry Steve dog, went out for the evening,iam using 87 gn hotcor at the moment that has been the most accurate so far it 100 pro hunters were not to bad either, going to try 117 gn rn next , shot my1st sika with it years ago then it went in cupboard for along time while I used other rifles but started loading for it again 3or4 years ago and have only shot pigs since then , with no problems, I have got the reamer die aswell to go from 303 to 303-25 if ya need one .
Keeps life interesting. I didn't know bugger all about this though am learning more thanks to the forum.
Thanks gur, I have a form die as well. Be keen to know how the 117gr round nose work out. Is your a 12 twist as well?
Yes 1in12 twist 25 inch barrel,was thinking about chopping 5 off and putting my 7 mm dpt can on,one day , I also tried 80 gn Barnes and 75 v max , a 15 sample pack of Barnes was not enuff to fine tune them , keen to try them again.
Loaded up some yesterday. Form die from simplex works well. Melted a few tips of the neck annealing. Think I got the knack after a few. Started out at max nick harvey data which was in a no1 mk3 rifle which if I'm not mistaken is a rear locking lug rifle and limited to lower pressure than front locking Mauser style.Attachment 87468
That was my thoughts for when I have a play reloading for my P14 303Quote:
Originally Posted by stevodog
Cool, thanks for the headcheck on that smiffy. Someone was kind enough to forward me the NH data which is the only strong reference point to go with my other skerics of data.
When will you be making thunder in the valleys with the 303?
@stevodog a while yet. I was going to try to get the action back this weekend, but didn't get hold of the dude. felt crap all weekend so just as well.
Made some aluminium pillars for it but want the action back to get the clearance on the mag well right.
Then I have to take all the dowels I fitted to repair the cracks and excess glue (I thought I wiped the excess off but noooo..) and then bed the action and finish the stock.
I could just cheat a little and clean it up enough to fit action and glue the pillars in and try it but I'm in no rush. Don't even have any ammo yet.
Walker helped with that reloading data yeah? He, and a lot of others on this forum, have been very helpful with my project. In fact one of the posters on this thread sold it to me in the first place.
They both sound like they have some very interesting firearms.
A few things to come together then. Sounds like your pretty handy to do the work yourself. There is a myriad of help and knowledge from posters on here. Hard to think how I got on pre-internet. Hutch posted the load data to me. Interesting the cases turned out .020 less than the trim measurement. See how much they stretch on firing
Silly part is I'm a fitter/turner by trade but the gunsmith mate helping me is more of a stock man. But he's been doing the bases etc and I'm doing the basket case of a stock.
Its really around the wrong way.
Would a dark or possibly ebony finish be good for it?
Once I take the top finish off there is apparently a trick to use denatured alcohol (whatever that is in NZ) on the wood and that gives you a hint at the woods colour.
It did show some colour when I drilled into it for the dowels and recoil pins just didn't want to have to sand heaps off it to get there.
Im thinking a hint of red maybe, there was a shotgun a guy had restored on the forum and that looked sweet but it was the natural colour.
Still to be decided really
Meths.
haha it had to be something simple-I was thinking along those sort of lines.
Shot the rifle today and was all over an a4 page at 100m. These were with 100gr. Going to try some 87gr which its designed for with a 12 twist. I'm not hopeful though would like to be surprised.
Spent the rest of the range time shooting mint groups with my winnies.:thumbsup:
old 30s were really bad if one of action screws wasnt correctly tensioned.....someone will remember which and how tight....might be nothing but might just be the fly in your ointment. also have you double checked scope mounts AND BASES as the buggers can come loose and cause all sorts of random shite before you find out what issue was.
Good points nd. I haven't taken off or checked bases. I will play with the action screws. My Ruger is a bit special in that regard.
