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    400gr 44magnum loads

    https://detroitammoco.com/product/iq...0gr-44-magnum/

    Im looking at doing something similar to what this guy has sorted

    this hard cast coated projectile is apparently good in any 44magnum that is 1-26 or faster and mine is 1-20 (44/77)

    I am just wondering if anyone has had any success with these heavier pills as until seeing this i thought the 250s were the upper limit

    https://www.iqmunitions.com/2019/09/13/44-mag-subsonic/

    the current Fiocchi "cowboy loads" are not great killers from what Iv seen so im looking around for a good alternative

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    if your current subsonic is already passing through,,upping weight wont help at all....it wont make any bigger hole or transpher anymore energy.... unless you hitting enough bone to slow it down/stop it going heavier will do nothing better
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    I have special order 15" Shilen select match stainless barrel in 44 with 1-16" twist that I ordered for a project gathering dust. Would need fitting & chambering but would be perfect for what your trying to do.
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    i like the meplat of the bullets, should be very effective on animals at sub speeds, heavy is good, heavier is even better . . accuracy at 200 looked excellant

    good luck . . R
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJP View Post
    I have special order 15" Shilen select match stainless barrel in 44 with 1-16" twist that I ordered for a project gathering dust. Would need fitting & chambering but would be perfect for what your trying to do.
    Id love to mate but I got the poors at the moment and I really want a fast twist 338 cal first, eventually one day ect

    it really would be perfect tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    if your current subsonic is already passing through,,upping weight wont help at all....it wont make any bigger hole or transpher anymore energy.... unless you hitting enough bone to slow it down/stop it going heavier will do nothing better
    If Im going to start reloading for this (which Is on the cards soon) it would be good the get better than the performance im getting from it with these hard flat front cowboy loads currently

    Its either that or find some form of 44 special hunting proj that deforms and transfers some of the energy as im thinking these hard lead are just trucking thru and not changing shape that much or at all.
    its hard to fault them as this isnt a hunting bullet but it would be good to get it use a bit more its wounding potential

    its quite annoying that the 300blk I have is far more of a hammer than this thing
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    I make a .44 cal 270 grain HP and a 280 grain FP, Not hard cast
    The mix I use is about 30:1 Lead to Tin, With sub loads the 270 HP stays in and the 280 FP trucks on out the other side
    I don't thing anyone has recovered any.
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    I have a bunch of 280g cast that I used to use in that 77/44 as subsonics,would not be an issue running them faster as I discussed the subject with Robert when I got the bullets made up,not cast too hard either so they will expand,a mate has shot goats with them and he reakons they kill well.you are welcome to them.

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    Hard case Robert beat me to it on the comments!,

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    Second thoughts you should just sell me the 77/44 back!!always regret selling the hammer..
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    I will have to get some of the projectiles off you....and HOPEFULLY can borrow a set of dies for couple of weeks-month as local pighunter is down to 5 rounds....
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    Yea bud,pm me your address and I will send you some to try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The bomb View Post
    I have a bunch of 280g cast that I used to use in that 77/44 as subsonics,would not be an issue running them faster as I discussed the subject with Robert when I got the bullets made up,not cast too hard either so they will expand,a mate has shot goats with them and he reakons they kill well.you are welcome to them.
    I think I have your old rifle so you might be able to Rosetta Stone my reloading process and tell me what works off the bat


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    Quote Originally Posted by The bomb View Post
    Yea bud,pm me your address and I will send you some to try.
    Legend man Iíll pm you


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    I have not tried Roberts cast bullets, but I am sure that they are good. What I have found very good are the Nosler 300 gr HP. Very soft lead.
    Regarding the 400's, I would re-calculate the twist required using Greenhills formula, which is correct for this type of projectile.
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