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Cheers for the info mate. I'll try RL26 first since I have some (that belongs to my bro) but I'm keen to track down N565 as the results seem to be very good with it too. If I can get mid 2.9's and good accuracy with the 156gr I'd be more than happyQuote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
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Gidday mate. Are you using large magnum primer with superformance or large?
I use federal 215 magnum primers in all my large rifle caliber's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
I know@Kelton is using RL26 and the 156 Berger in his 6.5 SAUM and I've just given him some 142 LRAB to try.
I'm using them in my .260 and have shot about 4 deer so far with them, the last was a big red hind at 200 yards with a less than ideal shot way too far back and I thought it would mean a long tracking job.
It ran into the bush and about 30 second's later it came tumbling down the slip.
The internal damage was massive, so I'll keep using them for now.
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@Taupohunter large rifle primers(non Magnum) CCI BR2
I was told that Magnum rifle primers stretch the primer pocket in the 6.5 prc.
How so ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
My understanding is that a Magnum primer in the 6.5 prc will cause an excessive pressure spike which makes it hard on brassQuote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Using a non mag primer didn't effect velocity or accuracy so I just ran with that.
From memory I don't think a Magnum primer is necessary for under 70 grains grains of powder
Yip mines fed 210s rl26 and 156 eol will try the lrab as soon as work allows it and iv had enough sleep to be playing with gun powder saflyQuote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
@Gkp Did some ladders today with SP, 129sst had a good node of 2994 with 56.4 56.6 grains of SP, 140 SST was 2958 WITH 56 grains of SP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
57.2 grains of SP with the 140 ELDM stiff bolt lift.
20'' barrel measured using magneto speed v3
Im getting 3036fps out of my 20inch Hardy carbon wrapped barrel with 56.5gr of superformance pushing a 143 ELDX. RL26 shot just as accurate but it was slower If I do my bit it will shoot .3moa all day. At 600 yards 4 different shooters fired 5 shots between them and the group size was 3 inches. Two of the shooters were novices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
That's awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
How do you find the eldx go on deer at various distances?
I'll let you know when I shoot some deer with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
I am seriously interested in this caliber but didn’t want to run a 24” barrel , you guys are getting good numbers in a 20” , are you running supressors ? and are they in lightweight rigs ? and what’s the recoil like ? hope you don’t mind me picking your brains .
20 inch for me. I found near on 3000fps in a 3.3kg rig too light to punch the 147s.
I reckon 3.6 to 4 kg would be mint!
Still reserved on the 6.5 as I have only shot 7 or 9 deer and 40 odd goats but so far so good. It has potential to be "the one"
I have a 22" barreled version almost ready to go. Should be about 2.65kg bare and 3.5kg scoped and suppressed (VX5 and Atec Optima 45)
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We need photos please :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Claw
I pinky promise I will once I have it in my hands. Just (hopefully) getting finished up with Dean MaiseyQuote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
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@camo wsm is holding out on the gun porn!
@Gkp , yeah I am currently running a 308 with 20 inch Barrel , DPT can and bolt in its 3.7kg which I am happy carrying , it’s a shit to carry with the Harris bipod on but what isn’t I guess , I don’t want to give up accuracy for horsepower , so a 3.7 kg PRC sounds like it will be quite manageable, I’m not a big guy so can’t handle recoil as much as some others .
@Taupohunter I got some 143's on the way. Would you mind telling me your COAL for this load pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
I just used SAAMI specsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
Brian just picked one up for me, Mauser M18, nothing flash but good trigger and 24 inch 1/8 twist barrel so should be a good tool, anyhow thinking those flash Hammer bullets that Tahrs been using and 2213sc, anyone using 2213sc?
Welcome to the team! My barrel is 8 twist and shots the 120ttsx well. I was thinking the same with the Hammers, have some 124s to try out soon, wicked looking pill!Quote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
I would say that 2213 will be fine as it is near the burn speed of 4831 which is known to be a good powder for 6.5s in general, might be a little slower than what could be achieved with superformance or RL26. The 6.5 PRC seems to be very easy to load for with most combinations of pills and powder. Give it a go and let us know how you get on. I will probably put the hammers in front of rl22 as I have a couple of tins I am not using for any other cal. Attachment 146651
@Gkp how did the Hammer Bullets go?
Haven't loaded any up yet. Too busy doing other shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
Thought about doing a load for the roar but not enough time left to test them.
Quick question: How similar are Superformance and RL26 in real world experience, velocity & groups ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
I think superformance is faster burning. I am getting 80-90 fps more out of superformance over rl26. Both just as accurate in the prc.
In my .260 I use 1 grain more of RL26 compared to superprofrmance for same fps both group well superprofrmance is not as stable in warm temp.
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Thanks for that boys, I can give up my wonderings about RL26 and just stay with Superformance. Loading it in a 270. Might try in the 25-06 AI as well
RL22 accurate as well. I didn't chrony but
Funny you should mention RL22, I have a full one here after another forum member made a convincing argument re impending powder shortage / go to shop, grab it while you can etc. Pleased now I listened to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Gkp
6.5 PRC
Tikka action
Hardy 20" Carbon wrapped barrel
Load
ADG brass
Fed 210 Lg rifle primer
60gr Superformance
135 Berger classic hunter
3200 FPS
.350 inch at 110y
My 6.5PRC shot .3 or less with both. Superformance gave me better velocity....100fpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
Would you say those numbers would reverse with 150 class bullets?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
Never actually tested superperformance and also not a prc but near enough my 6.5saum did 3080 with the 156 Berger I wouldn't hesitate to use the 26 with the heavierQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Not that I have tried RL26, but I found Superformance more 'blasty' if that's a word than 2213.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
Taupohunter yourself, GPK and 25 08imp have given me a good picture of what to expect versus RL26 thank you
Getting 2990 with the 153s and R26 out of 22" with the PRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelton
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If using Hodgdon superprofrmance in the summer months at near max take care as it is prone to pressure spikes if your rounds are left at the range in the sun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
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Found that out in a 260 [emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
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If I can ever get my hands on some ill tell you. The ammo crises has taught me to keep my options open. I'm always tinkering.Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
153s are about the only thing still widely available arnt they? Probably due to being a bit long for all the creedmore owners.....that and the price....but shit they fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
