anyone have a proven recipe for subs for a 7.62x39
I got given 25 loaded rounds by a mate and he said I should pull one apart and find a powder that looks the same!!!!! glad he doesn't reload lol
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anyone have a proven recipe for subs for a 7.62x39
I got given 25 loaded rounds by a mate and he said I should pull one apart and find a powder that looks the same!!!!! glad he doesn't reload lol
NZ Guns & Hunting Magazine, Issue 147, Mar/Apr 2015
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7gr of trailboss and a 165gr cast projectile in the jw103 apparently. The guy I bought mine of gave me the load data, I've got the projs, but haven't got around to loading any myself. Send me your eddy mate I'll post you a handful.
will do cheers @Tommy
I love this calibre and it's super cool, 7gr of Trail boss, it's gotta fall like a stone, .22lr would have a better trajectory.. ?
Can't you just wait a couple of hundred yards and it'll get there by itself?. :D :D :D
yeah the trajectory would be/ is shit for hunting perposes I would say you'd only wanna be shooting 50m but at that distance a 220 gain at subsonic speeds is going to hit like a brick
for me its not for hunting just a bit of fun ill use full house loads for hunting..... if I even hunt with it over the 260 that is
At those speeds it is the speed only that determines trajectory. A 22 at 1000fps and a 220gr 30 cal at 1000fps will have effectively the same trajectory as the gravity will have the same effect on both. At longer ranges, the heavier bullets retain momentum and are harder to slow but at 1000fps (or there abouts) they are not going to make it far enough for that to make a difference.
Where these types of loads really work is tight bush and close up personal stuff or where ears are important. And its your ears, your dogs ears and potentially the ears of the animal that is next to the one you just shot......just like rabbits but bigger.....Bail guns running subs on bailed pigs or dispatching a farm animal with out disturbing the whole herd....
And for those that like to get close, it is as challenging as archery...
well Im still in process of trying to get mine down to cat sneeze volume.... was loading 6-7 grns trail boss behind a cast 151 grn pill with magnum primer but they still about same noise as subsonic .22 if not slightly more..... its got me stumped as they seem louder now than when I first made some up a couple of years back.....
recently tried without the magnum primer and have reduced down to 4.5 grns TB ....they much quieter....might just have to put some over chrony to determine if issue is suppressor is no longer functioning as it should..... still plurry good fun and drop my house muttons without any fuss,head shots at 25yards.
The twist rate of the JW doesn't lend itself to projectiles that heavy unfortunately. From what I have read 170gr is about the max. Also, the more mass you can push, for the same velocity = more kinetic energy. Obviously with a V^2 function speed is nice, but when you are capped by being under the magic 1050 fps that extra 15gr can't be a bad thing.
tried the 170s and they were similar volume noisewise ..cant see much point in going heavier when the 150s are penertrating enough now,and cant see how going heavier will give any more expansion . penertration yes but not doing any good in hillside behind animal. these puppies bounce of into distance enough as it is without giving them MORE momentum to continue.
Fair point
not yet sorry mate.... but the goat at 5 yards to day in the broom dropped on the spot with headshot...the young one right up her bum craned head forward to find out why its buddy had stopped and copped the same treatment.....absolutely PRICELESS.
the only projectile recovered so far had travelled through neck of sheep at 50 yards and I could just about reload that one back into case and shoot it again.
we used to cut a cross into the tip of hp .22lr rounds to make them expand quicker...... the 2nd goat was hit with one with that done to it....big bulgy eyeballs and pill didnt get to the neck,so guess it opened pretty darn well.
keep up the great work.
90gr xtp nobody tried them?
Very quiet out of a full lenght 308 and being a pistol projectile they do expand if not exactly violently.
so it looks like im going to buy a Tavor when i get to canada and get a 300 blk conversion , cant run a suppresor (illegal) 7.62x35 iknow ...but close enough to the russian one anyway ... so am watching this post with intrest as i will make my cases and reload once set up in the new homeland .... going for the 300 because your not allowed to shoot deer with anything smaller than a 243 ( i think .. )
will get a nice bolt action gun later ... i like my mil stuff
just finished skinning out the young goat and nope the doctored projectile surely didnt make it through to neck.....perfect.
They have some very very strange firearms laws in Canada
Mrs found a spent projectile in bottom of the dog dish after tipping left overs from neck stew out of crockpot....... will post photo when get sorted...... yip wev'e got a bit of expansion happening......
4.1 grns Trail boss
cci std large rifle primer
young sheeps neck at 30ish yards.
that's awesome performance from a subby
Nice. How are you doctoring it? Jig and a drill down the middle to a preset depth? What weight is one after the drill has been up it?
It obviously does the business!
.308 Cast hunting Bullet 151 gr HP | Trade Me or is he buying them look identical to me
they are from Robert/shootersNZ yip the above link...doctoring.... goes with all usual cautions.....all care,no responsibility,works for me blah blah blah
take stanley knife and cut down into rim of hollow cavity about 2mm in a cross pattern...... theory is it makes it plurry easy to start opening...we did it as kids with .22lr back before winchester brought out power points.
Been using 200gr cast lead wadcutters off TM, with 6.5gr of Trailboss. That combo gave me around 1050 fps.
Now I am experimenting with 174gr Hornady RN Interlocks. They seem to want a lot more powder... Up to 9.0gr of Trailbos and only getting 970 fps...
Anyone done testing between Federal 215 magnum primers and CCI 250's ? Would be keen to hear what speed differences were.