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Thread: AR2217 for 6.5x55 Swede - anyone using

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    AR2217 for 6.5x55 Swede - anyone using

    If you know your powders you will associate AR2217 more for Magnum calibres. However ADI list data for the 6.5x55 with a 140gn pill. At decent velocities for the calibre too.

    Can't be a very popular powder tho given there are still some 1kg jugs available here and there. My powder collection being unavailable to me for a few weeks, in safe storage while relocating, I find I neglected to keep something back to do some 6.5x55 loads now I've picked my new-to-me rifle up. Silly me, seeing as I have everything else needful in a portable setup using a Lee Hand Press ( try FL sizing a rifle case with one, I'll have a Schwarzenegger grip in no time). I'm reluctant to spring for a kilo of powder that will only have one load relevant to me, especially if my rifle doesn't take to it. Neither am I inclined to have it on the shelf at a time of widespread shortage when someone else may be looking for it. So before I splash, I thought to ask if anyone else has or is using it for the 6.5x55 140gn projectiles? And how it performs/performed for you.

    Oh, and yes I now know all the preferred powders for 6.5x55, and have my name down. In the meantime...

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    From ADI web site although I preferred AR2209 for 140 GR

    140 GR. Speer Soft Point
    AR2217
    .264"
    3.030"
    Starting
    46.5 grain
    2423 fps
    37600 cup
    Maximum
    51.5 grain (C)
    2651 fps
    46000 cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedz50 View Post
    From ADI web site although I preferred AR2209 for 140 GR

    140 GR. Speer Soft Point
    AR2217
    .264"
    3.030"
    Starting
    46.5 grain
    2423 fps
    37600 cup
    Maximum
    51.5 grain (C)
    2651 fps
    46000 cup
    Hi @Tedz50, yes, I think I stated I was aware of the ADI data, which is why I am asking if anyone has used it? Yes, I am aware of the virtues of AR2209, but good luck finding any for sale.

    If you have experience of 2217 please share.

    Jhon

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    No sorry must learn to read before jumping in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedz50 View Post
    No sorry must learn to read before jumping in.
    No worries, useful to have the data in the thread
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    When I had a T3 a few years back I worked up a load with 2217 behind the 140gr amax. Was very accurate and from memory was around the 2700-2750fps mark? Worked up to 50grains or so again from memory was a nice full case.


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    Ok sounds good. Might see if I can "borrow" enough for a few test loads.

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    How much are the 2217 jugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian 22. View Post
    How much are the 2217 jugs?
    From $136 to $165. 1kg.

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    On thinking about it I decided to go buy one. ADI has data for 7x57mm Mauser as well as 22-250, which I also load. Happy when a powder has potential for more than one calibre.

    Reloaders has 4 left @ $165 and Delta Mike down south has some at $135 both for 1kg bottles.
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    I know it's not the 6,5x55 [of which I have and load for two] but I use Labelled H1000 = 2217 for the 6.5 06.
    Add's to the thread ? Yes ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakewire View Post
    I know it's not the 6,5x55 [of which I have and load for two] but I use Labelled H1000 = 2217 for the 6.5 06.
    Add's to the thread ? Yes ?
    Indeed it does. I had to go research the 6.5 06 not having come across it before. Ballistic Studies have an excellent article on it https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Kno...nd+6.5-06.html

    Does not seem likely to cross over much on the 6.5x55 but I'm still learning

    Amazing what you pick up on this forum and more amazing just what is out there being used in little ole Kiwi land!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhon View Post
    From $136 to $165. 1kg.
    damn son, I regret not stocking up before the wu flu
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    @Jhon have you managed to test the 2217 yet, how did it go?

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    Greetings All,
    Up to 1989 there were not a lot of powders a little bit slower than H or IMR4831 so a lot of load data usually showed the best results with these. Non canister powders like IMR7828 were used in factory loads like the 7mm Rem Mag and others but these were not available to the handloader until much later. The H4831 loads often gave the best results and a load like 60 grains of H4831 behind the 130 grain projectile in the .270 Win gained almost cult status and are used until today. This is what some of the newer powders fight against in these older cartridges. Newer cartridges are a different matter however. AR2217 is an excellent powder in a lot of todays cartridges and Hodgdon is slowly providing data for them.
    Regards Grandpamac.
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