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Another Q. Anyone here running an arbour press?
My range is about 25 min drive away which makes load development a pain in the arse. I think I have been lucky with prior rifles as things ran pretty smoothly. Now with the 243 I want to try a few more things but just don't have the time to run back and forth to do exactly what I want. A simple arbor press and a Wilson seater would have me able to do it in the field real easy I was thinking.
Problem is you are basically limited to Wilson dies then...
Other option is to do case pep at home, and use a lee hand press at the range for seating.
The most common arbour press in the BR world for use with Wilson style straightline seater dies is the one from Sinclair International but it is not cheap, $US115 plus shipping.
[url]http://www.sinclairintl.com/search/index.htm?k=arbor+press&ksubmit=y[url]
I have seen a variety of other items of equipment used as a an arbour press the most basic being a crown bottle capper, but it worked.
Wilson vs Lee. Hmmmm let me think on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Whats to think about James?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
You know it's Lee all the way :)
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Whats wrong with a lee hand press? If you prep all your brass at home then use that to seat bullets it should be all right shouldn't it?
James, I'm assuming you have standard dies already ? So if you switch to an arbor press, you basically have to buy a new set of dies, in addition to the press. I'll introduce you to several top target shooters using Lee presses and dies, they must have some secret huh ?
Toby, everything I told you was lies :D It is physically impossible to load accurate ammo using any Lee equipment, EVER ! Pls rush out and buy reloading stuff at least 5 times more expensive, it will make your reloads much more accurate, yea right :P
of course more expensive equipment will load more accurate ammo, otherwise no one would buy it.
hayden, I have some really bad news for you... it's 90% marketing and 10% equipment
reloading is about using top quality components, and being extremely precise
if I carefully load the same components, using a Lee press for 10 rounds, and then whatever super-dooper mega-expensive press you want to nominate for another 10, how about we do a little test, mix all the rounds up randomly, shoot them, and you tell me which were loaded on the expensive press ?
It will be the one not seated correctly, damaged projectile, and the primer not correctly seated, but hey it's down to the guy pulling the trigger isn't it? LolQuote:
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Your onto it ebf. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
I've done just that in .308 with my Lee press and RGB dies vs my Forster press and Benchrest dies.
Couldn't tell you which was which after punching paper.
Some answers for you.
Shooting Sports USA - February 2013
Excellent article, and some sound advice...
Triton super jaws make a good base for a portable reloading "bench". Mount your press to a thick board, screw a length of 2x4 to the bottom, and clamp that in the super jaws.
Which kinda makes skimping on dies a rather pointless exercise then. Whats the difference in a Lee seater over a Wilson? I can buy a Wilson seater for around 50USD or a Lee Collet set for 65NZD. The press cost is negated as you need to have one regardless. So there is, after I get the Wilson into NZ about $50 difference? That would be lucky to buy a box of bullets, reasonable bullets, let alone the top quality ones you insist on. And then with the "extremely precise" bit rather than have a competition on who's gun shoots better just compare the loaded rounds for run out, neck tension and seating depth. The terminal side of the equation has so many more variables than the bullet to compare the two fairly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
At the end of the day I have far more money than I have time. Thats not saying a lot, as most working people I know are in the same boat. No one complains about getting too much hunting in. I would rather invest my money into the best gear I can afford in the hope the hype is real rather than manufactured. If you get good result from Lee gear great, but I don't have the time to mess around with gear (that has the frames break with regularity and the scales are better targets than scales) and hope it works out.
Forster Co-Ax if you are going to the trouble of reloading there is no other choice. Price well it will last a life time and you will be able to hand it on. Not to sure about the comments made about mixing up the reloads from one press to another but at the end of the day if you don't have a sound understanding on reloading in the first place quality equipment will not change the outcome. A little test that may assist place a dial indicator on the shaft at the top of the stroke , then half way down with pressure on the shaft in one direction and let it spring back and then check how much movement is in the shaft all this equals consistency, if that is not important use factory ammo!!!!
Cheers Rob
Love my Forster. Bought in 92 and still going perfectly.
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Lee collet set is USD 35
Std seating dies difference, you tell me ? If you looking at the Wilson stainless with micrometer seater, that has some functional benefits, but is closer to USD 100. Plus won't you need some form of full length sizer, body die, bump die somewhere down the line ?
I'd rather spend money on brass, trim and turn it, and batch projectiles and cases by weight. Different strokes for different folks :)
Agree with you about the scales, get decent electronic one.
I use Wilson dies with my 6.5x47 great for loading at the range, K & N arbor Press
if you want to buy local, try Julian he's very helpful
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sorry ebf i guess my sarcasm was lost in print lolQuote:
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i use lee for rifle, dillion for pistol.
While not wanting to debate which brand is better than another, I have a Sinclair arbor press and Wilson seater and you will have no problems undertaking the above with this set up. Good luck with your project.Quote:
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I am able to clamp my press to the towbar on my vehicle when at the range. The main issue is weighing the powder at the range. I only have balance beam scales and they are a bit of a pain to level in the vehicle, and not get any wind!
Cheers. It did seam the logical way to go about things.Quote:
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