Barnes ttsx jump anyone got any experience ?

Hey team I'm looking at giving the barnes ttsx 110gn a whiz in my new 270win hoping to develop a light recoiling flat shooting load thats good out to 400-500 yards, more than likely it will be used at much closer ranges 100-300yards but just want to quote the extreme.
I've done some research using streelok and a few different sources for charge weight and expected speed and it looks do-able.
I'm hoping to get around 3200fps-3300fps which should give me all I need to suit the intend use.
I have my powder and charge weights sorted for my ladder and according to barnes website there ttsx pills reccomend starting at .050" off the lands.
I'm just wondering if anyone has had any real world experience with the ttsx and what they found worked as far as jump is concerned ?
I know every rifle is different and no matter the responses I will develop my own load just curious to hear what others have experienced ?
Thanks in advance

Barnes ttsx 110g at 400-500 yards ?

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I mirror what 7mmsaum says above
I've used the 130gn TTSX out of my 308 at 2900fps (chrony was off) I have now shot 6 reds with it. Put it short, if it's going in a bush gun, Sure.
I personally won't shoot anything further than 200ish metres with it. Unless you want to smash both front wheels each time.
I much prefer the "killing power" of a cup and core poked through lungs and heart behind the legs (saves meat too).

I know the above will generate some.... Discussion... However it's my experience.

50k has worked in everything I've tried them in.

They're a traditional tangent design bullet, rather than a more secant/VLD. I've not found them to be particularly sensitive to depth and I suspect this is why.

I suspect the 50k recommendation is because keeping them that far from the rifling helps keep the pressure down more than anything else.

As for suitability at that distance. No comment. Speer do a 90 and a 115 grain gold dot though - would be very tempted to try one of those.

in my 7mm rem mag it liked like most Tikka's a longer jump in mine (60 thou jump.)

I used it in tandem with a 162 A-max being my up the spout round, but quite a bit heavier than 110. (I used the 110 TTSX-x in my 300 blackout 30cal) I'll need to look at my old reloading notes. But I think I spoke about what I was using on here.
No to using it further out as per above I had the Amax for that, and a same POI under 150m made it easy to manage.

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Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

Barnes ttsx 110g at 400-500 yards ?

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Maybe I would be better off sticking to my tried and trusted eldx ?
Pardon my ignorance but I thought for the barnes ttsx to work they needed velocity of 2000fps or more and in excess of 1000ft/lbs as long as you hit bone ? Certainly a muzzle velocity in the region of 3260fps would make this possible to 500 yards ?
Have I been mis informed ? Not sayng your wrong at all in fact I'm sure your probably right just trying to understand ?
If not the what would you suggest would be the maximum ethical range ?
Thanks for you input

Or partitions maybe ?

Appreciate the input fellas, maybe I was naive to think a lighter harder bullet going faster could deliver the same result as a heavier softer one going slower (all things are not equal it would seem, I'm not into chasing wounded animals and unless anyone can shed anymore light on this I think I will just stick to my 145gn ELDX in the 270win I have plenty of experience using them and they are proven effective .
Now what to do with 70 odd 110gn barnes pills :x_x:

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Originally Posted by dannyb

Appreciate the input fellas, maybe I was naive to think a lighter harder bullet going faster could deliver the same result as a heavier softer one going slower (all things are not equal it would seem, I'm not into chasing wounded animals and unless anyone can shed anymore light on this I think I will just stick to my 145gn ELDX in the 270win I have plenty of experience using them and they are proven effective .
Now what to do with 70 odd 110gn barnes pills :x_x:

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Use them out to 300

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Use them out to 300

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could do but in my experience the eldx will also do that just as effectively.... :yaeh am not durnk:

so what were you wanting to do with the barnes? Are the eldx no good for you at 500?

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Originally Posted by Gibo

so what were you wanting to do with the barnes? Are the eldx no good for you at 500?

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I was just going to try something different, but if it's not fit for purpose I'll stick with my boringly accurate and boringly effective ELDX, haven't had to use them out to 500 yards yet and to be fair it's unlikely that I would but I like to know that they can should the conditions and opportunity present itself.
probably just sell the Barnes pills off i have a 30-30 if I want to bush hunt and be limited to 200 yards :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by dannyb

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Now what to do with 70 odd 110gn barnes pills :x_x:

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Would make good hare medicine....

Used Barnes 110g in 7-08 they up to the task and serious hitters, everyone has a special opinion same as vehicles, lawnmowers, politics and so on. If I was you give them a go with at least 75 thou jump. Cheers

Mine went good at 60 from memory.
Good meat savers, need High impact velocities to work well.

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Originally Posted by 223nut

Would make good hare medicine....

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not where I shoot them they wouldn't :D unfortunately they would keep traveling for some considerable distance once exited the hare :O_O:

I've seen barns with up to 150" thou jump, try at 60-70 first and jump out to 100 if that dosnt work,
I don't use them anymore, I rather a partition or accubond, give them a try, and decide for yourself.
If you need penetration, they are one of the best choices, not much in NZ that might grind you into dust, or give a 300-400 stich lesson, for pissing it off.

Have'nt used Ttsx on any of the local deer - yet.

I've been using 110gr TTSX in my 308W going around 3200fps - 2mm of off the lands.

I've shot Kudu(470m hart/lung area), Oryx, Bluewildebeest, warthog, Blesbuck and Springbuck, Impala, Zebra.

On many of the animals I were able to recover the bullet - perfectly mushroomed. Weight retention was in the high 90%.

On one of the Springbuck I experienced some issues(head shot at +/_302m). The buck was standing broughtside and I overestimated the wind - hitting it just forward under its eye. The bullet passed right through - it did expand though.
Instandly blinding it.

It did not go down, but as soon as it presented another shot I shot it through the hart. (Would not recommend TTSX for head shots)

Meat damage was always low comparred to conventional bullets.

I dont like lead in the meat Im intending to eat, so Ill keep on using TTSX bullets.

Used 110ttsx in my .308 and they killed well at bush ranges,not sure on speed but not excessive.recoil was very low compared to 150g cup an core and I seated them deeper than usual according to the Barnes load data.

Get some berger vlds if you want to play, they will give the gay red tips a run for their money for sure!

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Get some berger vlds if you want to play, they will give the gay red tips a run for their money for sure!

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haven't had much joy with VLD's in my rem mag it has made me a little reluctant to try them, as good as others seem to get them going.

I seated them to mag length...have shot 2 chammy with same shot...200ish and one stag at similar range..... dont over think it...just use them as load in mag and keep your eldx in pocket for longer shots.... they work well up close and personal...

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Originally Posted by dannyb

haven't had much joy with VLD's in my rem mag it has made me a little reluctant to try them, as good as others seem to get them going.

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Must be just an amateur at reloading :P

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Originally Posted by Gibo

Must be just an amateur at reloading :P

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yup but I get lucky often enough, and know when to back off.....the rest is all a steep learning curve :D

dannyb ive done a bit of work with the 110ttxs and the 110vmax very sim BC in a ruger American the barrnes are good to 1800fps like you have researched not shaw on jump (about 1 to 1.5mm) below data us at own risk
57.5g ADI 2209 110vmax OAL 81.50 11mm group this is a very accurate load
57.5g RL 17 110vmax and 110TTXS OAL 81.50 17mm to 20mm group

The Barnes recommended OAL is a good start point. I got 110gr TSX up to 3350 fps from my 22.4" T3 with good accuracy. I've heard of folks struggling with the Barnes when they try to load them close to the rifling.

I haven't tried them on deer as I use the excellent 110gr GS Custom's.

or interlok

Barnes seem to like a bit of jump.

@Brian uses 110 grn (or near that) TTSX out of his 6.5.06 I think at 3.3K and they flatten deer out past 300 yards.

Ive used the Barnes LRX 129 grain in my 270wsm and they worked great out to 475 yds at 3,250fps. They have a higher BC than the TTSX and seem a bit more expandy.

If you want to try an interesting bullet the .270 130 grain Federal Trophy Bonded Tip are excellent and expand well at all the ranges I've used them out to about 400 yards. I would load a pic of an expanded projectile if I could....but they end up as the classic mushroom.