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Thread: Berger 87gr. 243 load data required

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    Berger 87gr. 243 load data required

    Hi team,

    Anyone have a berger Reloading manual? Wanting start/max for 87gr vld in .243

    I have 2206h, 2208 2209 and 2217.

    Any help would be appreciated,

    Thanks Lars

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    This might give you a general idea:

    https://www.ballisticstudies.com/sit...ide%202013.pdf

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    Noted. ADI website has loads listed for 87gr hornady sp, but the 87gr berger are much longer than the 87gr vmax, let alone the sp. I could start with the min load?, and work up from there, but if the knowledge is out there.

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    In My Sako Forrester I use 43.6 gn 2209 without pressure signs. Superbly accurate and effective. Suggest you start at 42gn and work up in 0.2gn increments.

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    The Berger reloading manual does NOT give any load data for the ADI powders but they give the following maximun loads for other powders.
    IMR4064 37.5 grains
    VV N140 38.0 grains
    Varget 38.8 grains
    IMR4350 41.9 grains
    H414 42.5 grains
    H4350 42.5 grains
    IMR4831 43.0 grains
    RE-19 44.7 grains

    Of the above loads VARGET has a direct conversion to ADI being 2208 and most of the other powders can be can be converted to close to ADI equivalents by using a burning rate chart and then working up from there.
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    IIRC H4350 is repackaged 2209
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    44gr of H414 with a 85-87 gr bullet, then tune seating depth, done.
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    I do have the book here.
    but yes H414 / W760 is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrygoat View Post
    Hi team,

    Anyone have a berger Reloading manual? Wanting start/max for 87gr vld in .243

    I have 2206h, 2208 2209 and 2217.

    Any help would be appreciated,

    Thanks Lars
    Run 2206h. Running the Sierra 85 sp and 87 Hornady Vmax at 3200 and 3250 with it. Then I go in the other direction with Re22 for the 95 Berger at 3050 from a 20" barrel. As for max loads - so I give you my max and you try it and seize your bolt (or worse) and then it's "that f#king prick told me!!!!...... in this case, my max loads are "go hard or go home"

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    To be clear, I asked if anyone had the "berger Reloading manual" And I asked for the "start and max" loads listed, not anyone's loads. But of course I'm after as much speed as possible haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrygoat View Post
    To be clear, I asked if anyone had the "berger Reloading manual" And I asked for the "start and max" loads listed, not anyone's loads. But of course I'm after as much speed as possible haha
    Can get you loads off the Berger agent later today if still required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrygoat View Post
    To be clear, I asked if anyone had the "berger Reloading manual" And I asked for the "start and max" loads listed, not anyone's loads. But of course I'm after as much speed as possible haha
    The loads given above by @TonyT are from Bergers manual. Go to ADI equivalents and convert if you intend to use ADI powder,

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    Seeing as there appears to be some difficulty interpreting the Berger data I posted in post #5 I have attached photos of the two relevant pages of the Berger manual.

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    I hope that explains it better.
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    44gr 2209.

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    will say the berger data looks very Conservative compaired to Hodgson online.
    85 gr Barnes tsx being a solid they tend to create more pressure running 3260 with standard powders and 3400 with StaBALL6.5.
    90gr cup and cor at 3200 and 3273 with starball.
    And 100gr over reloader26 hitting 3200 fps. On Alliants data
    Z

 

 

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