Best brass for relaoding

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Originally Posted by gimp

I have an annealing machine coming. I expect it to improve my brass life. I'll also get some evidence for whether it actually improves results on target.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCRI...st=WL&index=35

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Originally Posted by T.FOYE

Aww themselves fightin words!!!

I would deffinately take a bunch of your worst most random cases and get them shooting better. 100% non scientifically sure of it.

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Perhaps. BUT, any measurement improvement than using a gas torch and drill? I seriously doubt it.

Most blokes simply can't justify $400 dollars to anneal 100-200 cases a year.

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Originally Posted by gqhoon

AMP Annealer is the easy-button for sure if anyone wants to get into annealing! Obviously not cheap, but get 2-3 mates together and share the costs of purchase.

Once you have the machine, there’s really no reason not to anneal after every firing, takes about 10-12 minutes per 100 pieces. Good quality brass isn’t cheap these days, so you want to get the most out of it.

And no more frustrations of inconsistent shoulder bump. That alone makes the investment worth it in terms of avoiding more gray hairs!!

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Inconsistent shoulder bump is avoided by not measuring it. Problem disappears.lol

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Originally Posted by Oldbloke

Perhaps. BUT, any measurement improvement than using a gas torch and drill? I seriously doubt it.

Most blokes simply can't justify $400 dollars to anneal 100-200 cases a year.

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Hell. That is not shooting. Take up tennis if thats all you are shooting.

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Originally Posted by TeRei

Hell. That is not shooting. Take up tennis if thats all you are shooting.

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I hope your joking. As it sounds very narrow minded.
Plenty of hunters only fire 20 a year.

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Originally Posted by 30.06king

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCRI...st=WL&index=35

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This is a good point. Just shows how fiscally silly it is to spend $hundreds on annealer. For vast majority cheaper to just buy more brass
Do the numbers.

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Originally Posted by Oldbloke

This is a good point. Just shows how fiscally silly it is to spend $hundreds on annealer. For vast majority cheaper to just buy more brass
Do the numbers.

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Certainly depends on your application and needs.
Buying 100 pieces of quality brass per year for $300, firing it once and then selling it for 2/3 of the original purchase price has some merit to it.

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Originally Posted by Tahr

Do you have trouble with brass life?
I do it (manually) for insurance with large rifle expensive brass, but my 223 stuff disappears into the undergrowth or becomes loose in the primer pocket well before any splits and brass failure. I guess some of my .223 brass gets 6 or so reloads and a split neck is a rarity.

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My 6GT brass is $3.30 per. It was cheaper to buy an annealing machine than 300 new cases.

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Originally Posted by gqhoon

Certainly depends on your application and needs.
Buying 100 pieces of quality brass per year for $300, firing it once and then selling it for 2/3 of the original purchase price has some merit to it.

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Ypu should get least 6 or 7 before annealing becomes necessary. More before it splits necks.

I guess if it's very expensive brass,,, but,, for most,, forget it

Needing an expensive annealed is the exception rather than the rule.

I find I get more consistent neck tension when annealing brass. The brass sizes easier and bullet seating feels uniform over the number loaded. I anneal every time as I don't see a down side.

Work hardened 'springy' brass sucks.

Consistent neck tension is good for precision. Various sources have fired countless rounds to validate this so I don't have to.

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Originally Posted by Pommy

Lapua, Alpha, Peterson, ADG > Norma, Nosler > Federal, PMC, PPU, Starline > Hornady, Remington > Fiocchi (GFL), Winchester.

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Lapua gone to shit since Ukraine kicked off.

Non-existant 'new' production does appear very occasionally. £200+, shit new cardboard packaging means dented necks.

Alpha and ADG cheaper than Lapua in the UK now and better quality, primer pockets stay tight. Comes in ammo boxes. Never buying Lapua again.

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Originally Posted by Oldbloke

Ypu should get least 6 or 7 before annealing becomes necessary. More before it splits necks.

I guess if it's very expensive brass,,, but,, for most,, forget it

Needing an expensive annealed is the exception rather than the rule.

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Gets pretty hard to maintain consistent shoulder bump and neck tension beyond about 3x sizing and firings without annealing. And the difference definitely shows up on target at distance.

My next brass purchase will be nearly $2K, so having an AMP annealer just makes good sense if I want to get full benefit from it.

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Originally Posted by gqhoon

AMP Annealer is the easy-button for sure if anyone wants to get into annealing! Obviously not cheap, but get 2-3 mates together and share the costs of purchase.

Once you have the machine, there’s really no reason not to anneal after every firing, takes about 10-12 minutes per 100 pieces. Good quality brass isn’t cheap these days, so you want to get the most out of it.

And no more frustrations of inconsistent shoulder bump. That alone makes the investment worth it in terms of avoiding more gray hairs!!

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