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I know where you guys are coming from but Really I need to stick with the professionals opinions over the internet guys opinions. They think that the rifle is fine and I really can't see a problem myself . The gunsmith was a really experienced guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by nor-west
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Would you accept it if your car had been permanently damaged by something you had added to it?
Consumer guarantees act should see you right.
Your choice though, good luck trying to sell your rifle if you ever decide to. The bolt damage will take hundreds of dollars off the resale value, if anyone did decide to buy it.
But there is no damage done that was the whole point in getting it looked at and all second hand rifles have etching on the bolt face so I don't see any problem? The bolt has no damage, the headspace is perfect. The brass has the only damage...........Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
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Your boltface has been etched hasn't it? I have second hand rifle that have shot hundreds of rounds and none have an etched bolt face. A friend bought a second hand 375 H&H with an etched boltface (that was not as bad as yours), he paid about $400 less than you would expect for the rifle
All used browning x bolts have this etching from the precision headspace this is what 2 shops and the gunsmith have told me . And both shops showed me examples of there second hand x bolts .Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
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I'm curious, You have brass damaged by the bolt, if you continue firing the gun and continue to get damaged brass and more etching on your bolt face, then what?Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
My apologies if this has been covered already.
edit to add,
I just googled "browning x bolt, bolt face etching" and the only relevant post I found was the one below and Winchester admitted the fault lay with them and replaced the guys bolt. This was from reloads using Winchester primers so may not be relevant?
So the problem was a bad load of hornady and the brass was expanding like hell making it difficult to unload. All other ammunition fired since then has been perfectQuote:
Originally Posted by ROKTOY
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Unfortunately they did the typical NZ retailer trick and fobbed you off. They should at least give you a new bolt and have it fitted.
Yes you have been played..Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Young wipper snapper [emoji6]
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Is this a joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
'Etching from precision headspace'
I'll make sure I get the gunsmith to build my next custom with non precision/sloppy headspace so I don't get bolt etching
I'm guessing everyone on this forum are gunsmiths? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
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No. Just not naive.
Na, you have missed the point mate, these guys are trying to tell you that etching on the bolt face is not normal but hey as long as you're happy with a box of ammo then best of luck to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
Lol mate do me a favour and go check out some second hand x bolts . Take a few pics and post them here and if they don't have etching I'll eat a whole couch . Lol . Should I have dropped off my rifle to you for inspection?Quote:
Originally Posted by wsm junkie
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Lol all you internet experts told me to get it properly checked so I did and gave you the answer that I got . So now you're all super gutted that you weren't right . X bolts have etching on the bolt face . Go and look for yourself at some second hand ones lol ...... talk about home internet expertsQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
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Na mate, it'd be a waste of time cos i would've just told u what the others are saying.
Don't need to be a gunsmith to know there shouldn't be etching on your bolt face. Surely if etching wasnt a problem then you would wonder why manufacturers polish the machine marks off the face.
So every browning x bolt needs to have the bolt replaced?? If you go and see it for yourself that every used one has this etching will all the experts still say this even with the proof right infront of them ?? Lol wtf is going on .....Quote:
Originally Posted by wsm junkie
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You have been conned and now have become the internet expert you are wanking on about.Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
Every second hand xbolt has etching. ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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Go look for yourself dickhead . Your the biggest expert around. Go fucken look instead of sitting behind a computer. You asked to get it checked and so I did pretty thoroughly and now u can't handle that u were wrong u stubborn faggot . I've got actual proof mate and all you have is your know it all shit for brain . Ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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And why the fuck would 2 different shops and a gunsmith all try con me when there is literally nothing in it for them ?? You sir are a super douche know it all lolQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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WTF? You come on here asking for advice. People give you advice. They aren't trying to con you, they are looking after you. If that is the way you treat help, when you ask for it then go somewhere else.
Mate I was real grateful and then I came back with answers from the professionals ??? Then I got told I was conned . Wtf is going onQuote:
Originally Posted by stug
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Bloody brilliant mate🖒Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
Get some wattles for that couch.
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Haha yep !!! And you got to smash back a couch if you a wrong how's that lol ?Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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Pepper you need to chill a bit. These guys are not attacking you. The reason these guys are saying you got conned is because not one rifle made gets etching on the bolt unless some gas gets past the primer. That is what the hornady ammo did.
Can you pm me who checked it
Lol yea I probably do . But the etching is only after being used . If it's hard to believe yous all need to see it for yourselves. There's no point trying to convince me when I've seen it for myself in 2 different shops .Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
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It didn't strike you as odd that only x bolts apparently get gas cut bolts?
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Another good reason not to buy a browning!Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Bro !! You are a fuckheadQuote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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Wrong!! You are a fuckhead. Piss off mate and grow up a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
You're basically shitting on the most helpful and generous guy on here.
I think I see what they are telling you, and they are probably correct, that the headspace is fine and that the etching is not deep enough to cause any issues with function.
however, your brand new rifle has been damaged by some ammo they sold you, albeit cosmetic, I would still want it rectified.
Put it this way, you buy a brand new car and the dealership sell you a car care kit to clean it, the soap eats your paint and it starts peeling, you take it back and they check it over and tell you "nothing wrong with it mechanically, still safe to drive." They then show you 2 others with the same issue to prove this is normal. A mechanic also tells you it's fine to drive.
Would you be happy?
The thing is they do have something to gain, the gunshop will probably have another damaged x-bolt they will now have to try and sell, along with the ones they showed you. Perhaps points to a bad batch of ammo that they have been selling?
As for the gunsmith, I suspect he was more referring to the fact that the headspace is ok and the damage to the bolt is cosmetic.
I am pretty confident he will not deny that there is damage.
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Mate, no offense but the shop has got away with giving you a $40-50 box of ammo as opposed to forking out $800-900 to replace your bolt which you are well within your rights to demand. That is why people are saying you got conned.
Then I suggest you go buy as much superformance ammo as you can and go shoot as much as you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
Also a gunsmith told me that second hand x bolts like their ammo warm so best you put it on the dash with the heater on on the way to the range.
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Is this a James Sully thread?
Lol your such a fuckhead . The superformance is mint now . It was a shitty batch , . If anything hornady would be forking out so why would a shop care it's not there fault .Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
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Which is exactly what everyone has been telling you!Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
It will be a hassle for the gunshop, as the rifle is still safe they are happy to palm you off and not have to deal with it.
There are none so blind.....
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I prefer to be called a cunt but whatever you like buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by pepper123
Are you 16?
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It doesn't need replacing clown it's a bit of dust etched into some steel it's so petty to ask to get that replaced its patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudattack
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[QUOTE=veitnamcam;600012]I prefer to be called a cunt but whatever you like buddy.
Are you 16?
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Fuck off idiot
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With this attitude im glad your bolt has devalued your rifle and you got tucked, good job