Anyone know if there's any Litz data for these? I like to run his G7 for what I use.
Namely 143 ELDX and 147 ELDM in 6.5.
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Anyone know if there's any Litz data for these? I like to run his G7 for what I use.
Namely 143 ELDX and 147 ELDM in 6.5.
Here is the mobile site for you Ballistic Coefficient - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc you will find alot of info there
In short you don't "need" Litz data due to them using radar for the new pills.
Already got that thanks. Was after unbiased data.
Interesting point, I didn't realise doppler radars could be baised.
Same, until after seeing them change their fist listed data for a lot of the new ELDs when they first came out. Anyway I was after any Litz data if it was around. Do you have money on it being the same? Be interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Timmay
To what range have you tested them thus far mate? Are you finding the published BC not legit, or are you simply looking to get more accurate proven data before pushing them way out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Just curious mate.
Not all radar's are not created equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmay
The Hornady one is not capable of gathering all the complex data that some more expensive, multi-frequency radar systems with tracking heads are like Litz uses.
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Sweet, yeah me too, i havnt pushed the new elds in 6.5 past 400 as yet, but was thinking exactly the same thing about Litz figures last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Hey @Gibo I have the AB custom drag curve but it won't tell me the exact figure.
The AB G7 BC for them are:
143 0.315
147 0.335
Ah cheers bro that'll be Litz and co.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Hornady has them at:
143 0.314
147 0.351
Reasonable difference in the 147.
After aligning themselves with the same range at which other bullet makers test or report their BC they changed the number on the box hence the link I gave you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Ah so Hornady use a cheap version of a Doppler, what model was that again?Quote:
Originally Posted by BRADS
If you check that link at the top of the thread you would see their data correlatesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gibo
Hornady data 147 Midrange: G7 .332
Infact if you average the 3 BC ratings (147) you get from the Hornady website you arrive at... 0.334666
@Timmay
Hornady use a Infenition Br in there videos
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Hornady apparent use a radar capable of measuring 600yds down range. Made be the same company that is producing LabRadar but the Hornady unit is massively more powerful than the LabRadar.
Other facts:
Litz thinks highly of the LabRadar and sells them.
Litz has just had a tussle with Hornady over their Hornady 4 DOF Ballistics Calculator.
Hornady are putting great stead on their BCs verified by their radar.
I have never believed a lot of manufacturers' high BCs (including Hornady's) and have relied on Litz to come along with real life proven data - I guess what the OP was after here.
When will Litz do the goods on ELDs - that's a good question given his paper he wrote attacking their calculator. If he is a nasty guy he would seek to disprove the claimed BC figures. He may have already done the analysis and has not published. Something that could happen if the BCs prove to be correct. I also don't think he is a nasty type. :)
ok all you people not using applied ballistics because you won't fork out the $40 you are missing out on his custom drag curves.
so far I have down loaded three.
the 147 eldm 143 eldx and the 285 amax and will be doing another couple soon.
fuck all rest just buy the best
I only recommend this app it as I can help people when they have issues with things not working and they also have the litz CDC which work spot on out to 1200 with the 6 5.
go figure .
buy once cry once.
if any body needs help I can probably sort it.
cheers Andy
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Shit, can of worms aye
unbiased data from an independent expert is always good to have.
I love Litzs data but he is a bit of a problem when he keeps changing his BCs on the Berger bullets, usually down....don't forget he works for Berger & they won't be loving Hornady at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Changing the Data makes his $100 books obsolete.....
A client was talking to him at the Shot Show this year, he clammed right up when he figured out my client knew way too much about shooting the 375 a long long way...
Client come away a little disappointed to be fair...
Lab radar has a big brother that will track a 338 to 2km.
if ya mate was any good bryan will be asking for his cv soon😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
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