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Took my recently purchased Enfield no3 or mk3 can't remember the proper name for it out for a shoot last weekend was managing to hit a 200m gong with it using irons and cheap ppu ammo so now got some brass what's a good load you guys have found that works
Photo of the rifleand ill give you my "secret personal load"
Ppu’s good brass.
I use 150gr Speers SP’s seem to suit my No1 MK111 well ( me too )
I have a nice soft AR2208 load for it.
As MH said, pics required !
Nothing wrong with that brass at all, with neck sizing only and not going too excessive in the loads (coupled with the odd annealing) and ive got brass thats lasted in excess of 20 reloads...... if you really want good brass try and find the old Canadian tracer ammo, get rid of the projectile and the cordite and reload that puppy for a LONG time!
Ive batch my ammo to specific LE's and the brass fire forms to that rifle and then it stays with that rifle, one trick to help keep an eye on brass life is that you can look for the ring of "arrgg F**K" near the base of the case or before you get caught out is get a paperclip, straighten it out and bend one end about 2-3 mils from the end at right angles, then you can use this as a feeler on the inside of the case to give you some warning around potential case separation / case life! I cut a once fired case length way to get a better visual idea on where the case separation was happening and then used the feeler to get an idea on the stretching that was happening. i hope that made sense?
I will have a hunt around for load data as well
All matching numbers as well
Bottom looks more "german" than the top one....nice....
Some on Trademe right now. Auction number 1589154643. Trader's name is le303.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tertle
Have found 174 match king and 46grn of 2209, fed 210 primer and ppu brass super accurate in my no1 mk3. always start at minimum in these old rifles though and make sure you have good headspace.
good luck!
Bottom one is its m38 friendQuote:
Originally Posted by timattalon
Had headspace checked its good
The original mk V11 used a 174 gr flat base bullet. If I use boat tailed bullets in either my lithgow or long branch no 4 they throw them all over the target, I only get good accuracy with flat base bullets, the 180 prohunters are good for me.. PPU uses a boat tail bullet so if you got good results with them then the matchkings would be an option.
watching this post intently. These are for target shooting I presume not hunting?
it would be cool to get a deer with both of them can I use my 30 cal neck sizing die on 303 or is it a slightly larger dia bullet looks that way when looking at projectile selection ive got a hornady neck die
303 is 311-312 so a little bigger.
You've received some good advice so far.
I'll add that 42 grains of AR2208 used to duplicate the cordite velocity with the 174 grain mark 7 bullet. I'm not going to vouch for current lots.
I use 41 grains of AR2208 with the Sierra 180 grain Prohunter bullet in SMLEs. For years I have used a .308 FL die with the expander button swapped out for a .311 button, to neck-size .303 brass.
As already stated, brass lives with its own rifle. Each has its own headstamp to cut down on confusion.
Ammunition MUST be loaded to an overall length of 3.050-3.060 inches. Rim thickness is .063, and anything shorter than the OAL given by this amount will result in magazine jams. Remember that "Murphy is a Bastard", and that jam will happen when you least need it.
Lighter bullets will normally see you changing front sight blades, or taking to the backsight ramp with a file. The first option for originals and the second for already butchered sporters.
Cheers for the info guys so can I use my neck sizing die that I use for my 308 and 3006 or is there a different die for 303
Its a bigger bullet so id assume no bro
If you used a .308 neck sizeing die the .312 bullets won’t fit as the neck would be sized for a .308 bullet
Just full length size the pricks mate don’t think you’ll get much advantage from neck sizeing in an 303
If you keep your cases rifle specific then neck sizing will give you long case life, if you mix n match you will have to full length as some chambers are very generous and will get stuck. Fl sizing works the brass heavily and shortens case life considerably.
Yip, I neck size only.
My son shoots a 1901 MLE, and I have a No 1 MK111
Cases for each are kept separate, works for us !
Actually thinking about it, it works for him, because I pay for his reloading.
Ah well, kids eh, he can push me around the range if I end up in a wheelchair !
OK might go old school and get a Lee loader and do it that way not like I'll be hundreds of rounds at a time
I’ve used one, it worked well. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by northdude
Some 303s like 150gr, some like 174gr better. 42gr 2208 +/- 0.5gr with a 174gr will give you in the order of milspec speed. if only shooting to 100yds I suggest 38gr 2208 is enough and the brass will last longer.
Actually this stuff it tends to be over-priced, it has a crimp you have to remove so need a tool and its weight is all over the place. I also find with age this brass is failing sooner ie less reloads than new brass. As a result I just buy 100 new PPU brass I think its the best myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by systolic
Target shooting is very much going depend on the condition of your barrel (and its bedding). The 303brit SMK is over $1 a go but should work in a good barrel. Other options is try 308w HPBT, even 308w FMJs. Load would be around 42gr 2208 for milspec speed which for the resonance is close to what you want but 150~155gr can shoot very well also. My eyes have gone to crap so I cant shoot without a scope these days but a good No4 or P14 should do 1.75~2MOA.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
Yea I've got a few already that I drag out every now and then Foe the hell of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Frogfeatures
