Has anyone a load for Subsonic 12 Gauge?

I have Googled but can not find any posts here or elsewhere for loads using the powders I have which are ADi APS450 and AP70N.

I don't want to buy a third powder, (but if I have to, then I will if I can source it :>) and I do want to be below 1000 fps.

Oh, and no, although I have Black powder, I don't want to go there.with this gun. But on the subject of Black Powder, does anyone know the FPS that B.P. 2F creates in a 12 gauge?

Thank You.

Save a little bother and get some of target products mouse fart smokeless cowboy action loads think they do 950fps
As to bp it depends on how much you put in. You can still find dram equivalents printed on some modern ammo or look up an odd shotgun loading manual.
The old maxim was equal VOLUMES of powder and shot.

Does forgetting to check the Powder bottle and loading them without powder count as subsonic :-)
Very quiet - not a lot of kill power but :-(

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Originally Posted by mimms2

NB unless you have a supressor you're still going to have the whomp of muzzle blast.

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That is exactly what i do have and I'm looking to remove the "CRACK" of the sound barrier breaking as well.
The only unknown is if there will be enough energy to recycle the semi without the "crack". Time and experience will tell. :>)

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Originally Posted by Sarvo

Does forgetting to check the Powder bottle and loading them without powder count as subsonic :-)
Very quiet - not a lot of kill power but :-(

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Whisper quiet I'd have thought.... apart from the bad language turning the air blue.

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Save a little bother and get some of target products mouse fart smokeless cowboy action loads think they do 950fps..........................

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I have discussed with "those in the know" and the general opinion is that the cowboy powder has less recoil but not is not subsonic.

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

..............As to bp it depends on how much you put in. You can still find dram equivalents printed on some modern ammo or look up an odd shotgun loading manual....The old maxim was equal VOLUMES of powder and shot.

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This "Stupid Boy" should have consulted his Lyman 2 cnd edition before bothering others by asking. Duh.
None of the 12 g loads are less than 1000 fps

Thank You Chaps, all settled.

I now have the ADI recommendation of a powder and for a 1 1/4 oz load, four different measures to which produce from 851 fps to 985 fps. Well within my desired range.