Help design the NZHS Forum Wildcat - Part 1 - Action length

[gimp]

Something you can buy in a box from the shop

[crzyman]

700 NE AI for kicks and giggles

The thought of a 1000 grainer traveling at 2500fps makes me horny

Just run the numbers, 620 ft/lbs of recoil from a 7lb rifle...... make it a Tikka of course

[Wildman]

Something you can buy in a box from the shop

Dont worry we wont make you get one.

[baldbob]

Neck down a 308 to .277... be a perfect inside 500m allround NZ gun and different... even with all the gay pills you cant get for it

[sniper80]

How about a 7.62x39 necked down to 7mm (or even down to 6.5mm) It would be great for anything inside 200m and fit in your standard AK/AR.

By the way I voted long action, coz it gives us options.

[crzyman]

How about a 7.62x39 necked down to 7mm (or even down to 6.5mm) It would be great for anything inside 200m and fit in your standard AK/AR.

By the way I voted long action, coz it gives us options.

Gunworks have a reamer for 7.62x6.5 and you can get lapua brass.

Just wondering what your trying to do, reinvent the wheel?? Next the forum will be making muzzle brakes

[Wildman]

25x39

[Spanners]

6.5x7.62 is pretty much a Grendel

Its more a exercise of majority rules rather than reinventing the wheel, to see what we come out with, and if its any different, the I'll get a reamer made and have a play.

i cant believe how many people are missing the point haha

[7mmsaum]

6.5x7.62 is pretty much a Grendel

Its more a exercise of majority rules rather than reinventing the wheel, to see what we come out with, and if its any different, the I'll get a reamer made and have a play.

i cant believe how many people are missing the point haha

To be unconditionally gregarious is a luxury but Hunters are no exception to a quirk of humanity, we can be individualistic by our actions, and our nature.

Because of that I doubt many are keen to put their best ideas out there, as thats their intellectual asset.

[Spanners]

To be unconditionally gregarious is a luxury but Hunters are no exception to a quirk of humanity, we can be individualistic by our actions, and our nature.

Because of that I doubt many are keen to put their best ideas out there, as thats their intellectual asset.

Still on wrong side of the road I think LOL

eg
Poll 1 Winner = Short action
Poll 2 Winner = 35 cal
Poll 3 Winner = 303 case
So you'd end up with a 303 modified enough to fit short action, with a 35 cal pill jammed in it and squared up and Ackley improved - or something

or if it went
Poll 1 Winner = Short action
Poll 2 Winner = 6mm
Poll 3 Winner = 30 Rem case
You'd end up with a 30 Rem modified enough to fit short action with 6mm VLDs in it Ackley improved?


If everyone thinks its a waste of time I'll click the delete button......

[7mmsaum]

Hey Spanners I dont think its a waste of time, but my little brain is sure on the wrong side of the road.

School me now................

[distant stalker]

Thats not the point of the whole exercise though.. if it was we;d be at 338 LM improved or 338/408 or something already.
Might end up with a short 45/70 or maybe a AI 6mm on a 204 case...??

I was not suggesting something so overpwered as that but I am somebody who is never pleased with mach 1 of a design hence wanting to keep options open, if I were to build a 2-300m rifle eventually I would want it to be more eficcient, be able to shoot them in the eye at 300m and even do it on a windy day (but i would still shoot them in the shoulder ). I like the idea of a short efficient case that will deliver all the energy you need for within the ranges you have suggested but would not want to be limited by action length and I wouldnt care if the end result was an action that was longer than the round needed (as seen in tikkas) I would go long or perhaps medium but definitely not short, you want to have good performance within 2-300 but that doesnt mean you cant ask for amazing perforamance to give spectacular results in both accuracy and terminal performance within those ranges firing heavy for calibre pills, doesnt need to be a marginal cartridge.
I like using the 223 for killing things but its not my ideal for an across the board 2-300m rifle, what happens when you want to snot a stroppy boar you stumble across in the ferns while out looking for a deer or a bull tahr you cant quite close the gap on and is about to wander into a spot you wont be able to recover him from (this is what I consider everyday type hunting) and dont have an ideal shot?
I do however like the 6mm pills and have been wanting a 6br to fill a gap in the gun cabinet but would not consider this as something to fit the bill you have described
I think something in 6-7mm firing long pills with a square shouldered case would be cool so medium would probably fit the bill to deliver the performance but why handicap yourself if you are going to build on a tika (as suggested, which would be good for the AI designs) where you could just buy a medium magazine if the round ended up shorter

[Cyclist]

bajeezus its obvious: a 6.6/06 Beastman

(projectiles may be a little hard to come by - better order up some forming dies at the same time :-)

[7mmsaum]

Can we think outside the square with the case material?

It seems brass no longer needs to be the the weak link.....

http://www.vigilancerifles.com/338yellowbastard.html

[Spanners]

No

lol