That's a massive ripoff if it's the steel cased stuff.
I shot a few 5rd groups zeroing the AR tonight, less than 1.5moa consistently in rapidly fading light with 4x ACOG, not shooting slowly.
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That's a massive ripoff if it's the steel cased stuff.
I shot a few 5rd groups zeroing the AR tonight, less than 1.5moa consistently in rapidly fading light with 4x ACOG, not shooting slowly.
Any one tried the fiocchi 223 55gr fmj, im gettting good results through the NEA 15, paid $36 per 50 round boxs. They also make a 69gr load and 77gr load. Target products in Timaru are the main importer dont think there is the 77gr load here but they do have 55 and 69 loads
My new Savage doesn't seem to like the training ammo (2" groups) so will have to try something different - those heavier Fiocchi loads sound interesting.
With the training ammo I managed to get an average speed of 2927 out of about an 20" barrel. The speed spread was about 100fts over 5 shots. Was still shooting 3 shots under 1/2".
Handloaded Hornady 55gn SPs were a good goat killer for me in my old M-Bolt .223. Including a few 200m shots that were:
Phpfttt.... (suppressed)
Thwack
Mheeehhhhhh
Roll down hill dead.
Only stopped using them as I now shoot 65gn SGK in my Sako.
excuse my ignorance chaps but what exactly does Training ammo have over sporting ammunition,or vice versa.
Its cheap and really accurate in a lot of rifles. Great for semis too as its steel cases and no big deal when they get lost in the bush or get damaged during extraction.
its good ammo for the price but my ruger m77 doesnt extract it properly but extracts all other ammo:(
Forum member "the kid" and I shot like 15 hares today with it and it worked pretty spectacularly out to ~200 meters
Hey gimp, What hand guard is that fitted and whats the OD of it.
Don't know what it weighs exactly, it's light though.
It's a Troy Vtac Alpha tube and the OD is about 1.5"
I recovered a projectile out of 1 of the goats I knocked over last weekend.
Distance was approx 180m. Impact was through the front of the neck. Dropped it on the spot.
Found the projectile in the shoulder blade when I cut off one of the front legs.
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A friend and I spent the afternoon trying out various loads etc, I have a 20" RRA AR15 and he has a 16" MR1 Benelli and the Hornady training ammo S/P showed good accuracy in both rifles, we then put it over the Chronograph which supprised both of us the 20" barrel was average 2911fps and out of the MR1 16" was 2662fps this was 250fps variation showing a 63fps loss per inch.
Both barrels are 1in9 twist.
This takes the training ammo out of contention in a 16" barrel for larger game shooting dose it not.
Those speeds are close to what I've chronyed it at also.
I don't know where they get their box speed from as I can't match it
Ya was still short on speed. Closer though
Had a fax come through from hornady.
No training ammo till June at the earliest .
They are doing better prices on the brass cased versions but will still be @$50 or so per 50. So if your local has some steel left buy them !
Gunworks has a good supply ;)
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shoots not too bad. 3 shots at 250 meters. a lot of wallabies this weekend, all clean kills with the right shot.
yes it's a little off centre, disappointing.
also it is sloow slloooooow slooooooooowwwwwww
No chance of it burning out your barrel then eh Gimp. LOL
I'm working on it pretty hard
I checked some brass training ammo and I had it at 2840 (ish) out of a 14.5" barrel - not too bad, box says 3240 (so whats that about 40 fps loss per inch?)
What we got with the steel case training stuff:
Gun, twist, Suppressed, Unsupppressed
REM 700 tactical 20 inch heavy: 1:9, 3006, 2967
Savage Classic 20 inch: 1:9, 2986, 2987
Howa 1500 20 inch: 1:12, 3105, 3041
Tikka T3 22 inch: 1:8, 3149, 3130
We also tried Hornady 53gr Superformance as well in the Howa and it was 3340 so a lot quicker.
Just picked up another 1,000 rounds yesterday off Reloaders, $680. They have @3,000 left, are expecting more at some stage, they just weren't too sure when. So figured it was a good time to grab some with Easter and another rabbit sniping tripped booked :thumbsup:
The thieving pricks, they know it's in short supply.
Cameron (sp?) are saying that NZ goes through 500G a quarter. Wrong. That's all they import. If there was more, a lot more it would get used. Wankers. This stuff is always running out unless you don't mind getting bent over.
At the supply rate we get it (very bad) I'll have to get the press back out which pisses me off.
Steel cased training ammo chronied at 2950fps average through my 20"bbl suppressed CZ527.
Easily groups 5 shots into 1.0" at 100yds.
Have shot goats with it no probs.Paid $38.00 per box.
GH.
Anybody want to sell me some of the Horny .223 brass from the 50 packs? My .223 loves it