That's good alright. Blew the legs clean off that right hand one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
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That's good alright. Blew the legs clean off that right hand one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
And it had 6 hind legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
That venison tree is flowering really well this year.
What twist rate are you pushing them through? Their web site shows 1-7
Manufacturersdo some smaller ones that would stabilize in old school twist 24 calibres. None here yet though
Have shot them through a few different 1:8's just fine. I think they will be OK in 1:9's too though I don't have one to check.
1:8Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
I have a 1-9, might give them a spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
If they don’t work in your gun I will buy the balance off you. That will cover you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sneeze
Very kind offer thankyou, I have a 1-8 as well so should be able to get some use out of themQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
They can penetrate. Through the paunch and exit. 100 yds.
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62 grn Maker/.223 275 yards. Low crease shot. Red Spiker. Ran 50 odd yards. Dead on its feet. No blood trail.
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Looks like it still opened up ok?
I would say so looking at that heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
And here's a doe's lung from last evening too. Quartering towards me. 145 yards. Bullet punched out through the paunch.
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I’d interested in the 7mm 150gn T-Rex if you’re bringing in another order @PommyQuote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Yep, PM me with your details and I'll put what you want on the list.
Try 24gr BM2. Magic with 65gr Sierra. 2C.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwijames
The insides of this deer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Under the shoulder (entry).
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Inside, entry.
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Exit
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seems they work ok
You gut your deer inside? Lay out the silver ware as well for them. Bloody hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Hah hah. I gave it to a friend and he sent me the pics.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeRei
Well I tried loading some 62gr up for my 223.
Turns out i must have a dud batch. A bunch of them have a rough finish and when seated in the case are loose and will spin easily in the neck, but they wont pull back out.
I mic'd them and it shows they are 0.001" wider at the base (top of boattail) than at their seated point.
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When i checked seating depth i had grabbed a "good one". When seating on powder the first was good, the next 5 were duds. I felt them drop past the neck and then go loose. Pretty fckn disappointed as i was wanting to go shoot them.
I tried removing a lee collet neck die mandrel and squishing them tight, bit no luck.
Dunno what thats about. Sounds random. When I collected mine from Ammo Direct they were counted out of a large bulk lot of maybe a thousand or so and they all look good (100).
You should see the vids on making Hammers.*They put a lot of effort into them. Never had a dud Barnes. I was awaiting the shipment in to try 110gr 308 but might look askance now about quality issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roarless20
So Ive got 2 lots. 50 I mentioned that came out of a bulk lot that I collected, and 50 that were posted to me. Ive measured several from each lot and they are consistently .223 at your (Roarless20's) measuring points.
Ive hand loaded about 40 of these and never had a problem with the bullets being loose. OAL 2.309" Mixed FL sized brass.
They shoot about .75" consistently (several 3 and 4 shot groups over time). 25grns BM2
It seems about half are duds. I can feel the machining rings on the duds with my finger nail, with a pronounced lip at the boatail.
The good pills are smooth like an other brand projectiles.
Get in touch with the supplier you got them from. If anything they will want to know about the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roarless20
I cant understand how such a small amount in variance can make a difference. I wouldn't think the little machining edge at the base (the odd one of mine have it) will effect anything (its a soft gliding metal), and mine are the same measurement under the ogive as Roarless's and are quite tight in the case neck.
Not doubting Roarless at all, just wondering if there is another reason for the loose projectiles?
I have spoken with supplier and will return them so they an see the problem and they will refund me.
@Tahr of 50 prep'd cases all done the same at same time. Amp annealed and sized, 40 got 75gr eldm all mint, some (5) maker were good, other 5 were crap. I even resized the neck to about 0.020" under size and the dud projectiles still ended up loose.
On inspecting the packet of 50 projectiles 25 are duds. The only issue going on are the projectiles.
Thats a bugger. I loaded 20 today and did have 2 that would revolve in the mouth but not pull out. I gave them another firmer bump in the seating die and it resolved, but not good. Cases are new and neck turned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roarless20
Doesn't instil confidence, eh.
Thats a bugger you've got some duds too. Let them (supplier) know also, that way they dont think it was just my one off few. I'm sure Maker will sort them out with replacement stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
176 yards. 62 grn (.223).
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Entrence
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Bullet was just sitting under here
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Entrance through ribs with shoulder off. The bullet angled from this heart region right through the gut bag and you can see how the gut contents sort of hydronic'd back through the cavity. Vicious.
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@Tahr
Thats a great looking expanded bullet!
What velocity is it leaving the muzzle?
3100. They seem to have an expansion threshold of about 2000fps. That gets me out to 400 yds using a BC of .3Quote:
Originally Posted by Roarless20
I shot a thumping red spiker at 330 yds and they worked ok. Pass through - maybe 'cos less expansion?.
@gimp?
Not .22 cal but 30cal Maker TRex.
I ordered some 110gn TRex standard velocity projectiles but was mistakenly sent the 110gn 300BLK version. Although Maker didn't get back to me when I asked what sort of mv they expected them to work at, I thought "What the hell. I'll give them a go".
Loaded in my 308win at 3000fps this was the result on a 70lb pig this evening.
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The pig was running, quartering away and I hit him just in front of the right hip. He only travelled about 8 meters after being shot but I did give him a finisher once I reached him (although it obviously wasn't going anywhere). It was getting dark but a quick autopsy while gutting him found some of the projectile.
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This appears to be the base of the projectile and there isn't much left of it. It looks much like a standard cup n core type base. I did notice damage to the lungs where I assume other parts of the projectile went but didn't find anything.
One kill is not much to go by but I am interested to use them a bit more and see how they go.
Dead pig.
Maker are hopeless at communicating.
Ok. It's not just me then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I butchered the pig this morning and this is what I found of the projectile. Two petals and the base weighing 79 grains (of 110). Any other bits may have been in the discarded guts.
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Interesting that the bullet is a flat base but it is clearly now quite concave?
And a photo of the entry wound, the bullet angling in from the rear.
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It has left a huge hole behind the ribs. About 10cm away from the main entry (4 o'clock) is another wound where I found one of the petals against the skin. The hole it made to get there I could put my finger through. The second petal I found in the oven dish I was putting the meat in so not sure where that ended up in the animal.
Although the shot didn't kill the pig instantly (not surprising considering shot placement), it disabled it immediately and looking at that entry wound, all I can say is that they Maker mess.
I just found the 3rd petal on the ground near where I processed the pig. So final tally....
Total weight recovered 102gns (of 110).
Weight of base 32gns
Weight of petals 24gns, 24gns, 22gns.
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