I ll try n test some shots when this rains gone
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I have put a few rounds over mine but haven't got my ced m2 to compare with.Need a new sensor,will see if I can borrow one.
But so far seem to be working well,a lot easier to set up and use.The first time the wind picked up just after getting to the range but that wasn't a problem :)
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I haven't put a tested load over yet,I'm a serial load developer lol but some loads looked a bit slow to what i had been getting over the CED
Have sorted a sensor out so hopefully Wednesday arvo I'll be able to compare side by side.
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So I finally got round to testing it next to my ced M2 today.I had it set up right in front of the M2 The M2 is 13ft from the front of the bench and the superchrono was 12ft
Attachment 5818Attachment 5819
And here are the numbers
String 1,2,3,5,6 and 8 are the .222 and 50sp and 4 and 7 are the .243 and 87hpbt
String 1/26.5w748 superchrono
_ 1)_3159.0_ -18.3 1)2972
_ 2)_3195.0_ 17.7 2)3001
_ 3)_3178.0_ 0.7 3)2992
Avg=2988
__ High:_3195.0
__ Low:_3159.0
__ E.S.:_ 36.0
__ Ave.:_3177.3
__ S.D.:_ 18.0
__ 95%:_ ±54.8
String 2/27w748
_ 1)_3206.0_ -15.3 1)3034
_ 2)_3227.0_ 5.7 2)3061
_ 3)_3231.0_ 9.7 3)3051
Avg=3047
__ High:_3231.0
__ Low:_3206.0
__ E.S.:_ 25.0
__ Ave.:_3221.3
__ S.D.:_ 13.4
__ 95%:_ ±40.8
String 3/27.5w748
_ 1)_3267.0_ 17.0 1)3074
_ 2)_3222.0_ -28.0 2)3057
_ 3)_3261.0_ 11.0 3)3074
Avg=3067
__ High:_3267.0
__ Low:_3222.0
__ E.S.:_ 45.0
__ Ave.:_3250.0
__ S.D.:_ 24.4
__ 95%:_ ±74.2
String 4/44.5ar2209 87hpbt
_ 1)_3189.0_ 9.2 1)3005
_ 2)_3174.0_ -5.8 2)2988
_ 3)_3168.0_ -11.8 3)2979
_ 4)_3186.0_ 6.2 4)3011
_ 5)_3182.0_ 2.2 5)2998
Avg=2995
__ High:_3189.0
__ Low:_3168.0
__ E.S.:_ 21.0
__ Ave.:_3179.8
__ S.D.:_ 8.7
__ 95%:_ ±12.1
String 5/25bm2
_ 1)_3233.0_ -0.7 1)3064
_ 2)_3225.0_ -8.7 2)3051
_ 3)_3243.0_ 9.3 3)3064
Avg=3057
__ High:_3243.0
__ Low:_3225.0
__ E.S.:_ 18.0
__ Ave.:_3233.7
__ S.D.:_ 9.0
__ 95%:_ ±27.4
String 6/25.5bm2
_ 1)_3290.0_ 23.0 1)3106
_ 2)_3261.0_ -6.0 2)3087
_ 3)_3250.0_ -17.0 3)3061
Avg=3083
__ High:_3290.0
__ Low:_3250.0
__ E.S.:_ 40.0
__ Ave.:_3267.0
__ S.D.:_ 20.7
__ 95%:_ ±63.0
String 7/44.5ar2209
_ 1)_3183.0_ -8.7 1)3005
_ 2)_3185.0_ -6.7 2)2998
_ 3)_3207.0_ 15.3 3)3018
Avg=3005
__ High:_3207.0
__ Low:_3183.0
__ E.S.:_ 24.0
__ Ave.:_3191.7
__ S.D.:_ 13.3
__ 95%:_ ±40.5
String 8/26bm2
_ 1)_3366.0_ 29.0 1)3159
_ 2)_3341.0_ 4.0 2)3149
_ 3)_3304.0_ -33.0 3)3126
Avg=3143
__ High:_3366.0
__ Low:_3304.0
__ E.S.:_ 62.0
__ Ave.:_3337.0
__ S.D.:_ 31.2
__ 95%:_ ±94.9
As you can see there is a bit of difference here!Next I will test them with the superchrono at the recommened distance according to the instructions which is to be futher from the muzzle then the height from the bore.But from memory when I had it closer last time it still seem slower??
If I read your post correct, you have roughly 200 fps difference between the two?
Yes that's correct.
How have you gotten on with comparing yours Norway?
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The Kurzzeit was stopped in customs before Christmas and haven't been released yet. Hopefully have it done within two weeks. Sooner the better it seems.
Good effort and a decent comparison Dreamer.
200fps is a bit of a bummer.
I have the Ced2 and it seems to be pretty accurate compared with baldbobs Oehler so I think I will stick with that for a while.
One without friggin big wings and could be used in most conditions would have been good.
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Hey
I've followed Norway's trail here, we've sold a few of these to NZ I believe.
I've done a little video of the superchrono in use, and i've had good results with it.
I guess it is important to get it parallell to the bore line, and I've used about 3 meters distance.
Mine has been steady , and cathes all the shots I've fired over it. I've used a .510 whisper in supersonic mode, a 270 Win and a 6,5-284 at about 900m/ sek.
I did have a bit of snag at first as well, mainly due to either placing it to close to another chrono, not sighting it at the target, or placing it to close.
If you lower it to about 30-50 cm below your boreline, 2,5-5 meters out, and aim it at a point 30-50 cm below your target ( same as distance to boreline) you should be good.
take a look at this slightly dated video,
SuperChrono demo and use - YouTube
Jonesy's one was out a ways on the fast side it seems.
I wonder if they can be calibrated?
Hope you get good customer service if its needed.
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Hmm interesting.Might flick them an email and see what they say.
I use a Kurrzeit which is ok and a good place to start for new loads. However I've found I get better results for working out bullet drop by the "point of impact" test. It never seems to be the same as the chronograph.
The CED2 is good but its better with IR screens, without them in ambient light I still get significant differences. It would be good to see the acoustic against one with controlled light.
Id be happy to do a test if someones keen enough to loan an acoustic one.
Totally agree. I always confirm by firing.
Lots of other variables to consider other than just velocity.
Generally Im on till I get beyond 600 using shooter and known data.
Then a bit of fiddling to get spot on is needed.
I sometimes zero at 600, slip the scales
If its out a smige to what shooter says my elevation should be and find I am pretty sussed from there.
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went to use my one yesterday got all set up and bugga my one had flat batteries :sick:
no replacements on hand at that time so just went an blasted some water filled milk bottles :cool:
These posts had me worried, so I initiated contact with the producer/ Steinert. A bit short on time so hasty post summing up/abridged version of the answer from Mr Steinert:
The level is being removed from the updated version, it confuses. Use the sights and aim as per instructions. Use the accuracy calculator if needed.
The technology require some getting used to in our experience, most users get proper results after a couple of tries.
If there chronograph measures faulty they'll get a new one of course.
(I got an xls file with an accuracy calculator. Can anyone PM email and host so users can get it? It can be used to calculate the effect from aiming errors etc.)
Now tested against a Kurzzeit PVM21 with my 22 Hornet.
PVM21 avg 749,5 msec vs Superchrono 750 msec.
As soon as I've solved the powersupply problem I intend to test against two PVM21 (need to build a battery pack).
Film coming.
Will be very cool if theses prove to be accurate and reliable. So easy to carrry and set up and no ambient light problems.
just did a few quick test this evening nothing definitive but here goes
my 300wm adi 2213sc with 75grs shooting 168gr Amax ave fps 3011 3 shots only
my 25-06 adi 2213sc with 53grs shooting 110gr accubonds ave 2800 fps 2 shots only
my 25-06 adi 2213sc with 53grs shooting 117gr sst s ave 2850 fps 2 shots only
my 223 adi 2206h with 25grs shooting 55gr sierra blitz ave 3024 fps 4 shots only
mates 243 with 105 gr amax s ave 2457fps unknown powder n weights ???
same rifle 243 with 85 gr pills??? 2870 av fps
last test was mates 7.62x39 steel shells factory load ??? ave 2350 fps
so i dont know if these figures are in the ball park but it appears to me that its resonably close to the mark ?????
Hey guys
I just read through this tread again, and I hope that people are becoming comfortable with the superchrono in use. We dont make them, but we sell them. And as such our experience with the producer is absolutely first class. As for ourselves, we consider the Nz market just as important as the Norwegian market, and we will treat any problems with our full attention. If we can help you with any problem we will, and if there is a fault you will have a new unit or complete reimbursement without any hassle. Not that we think there will be, but thats our policy.
I do not have the time to follow up on all forum threads, but any emails at kenneth@vertebrae.no or a pm will be answered.
thanks guys !
Here's the promised film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0r9TYWG9dY
Cheers for the vid Norway, I have to say I admire your dedication shooting in the conditions you do.It would be easier I imagine to curl up next to a warm fire or woman:D
But I guess that is where you live and life goes on so you do what you do:)
So I had another play with my superchrono today after pming Norway and asking him how far from the muzzle he had his.I put my 6 paces out lined it up with the target and went to it.I have since had my 243 chopped back to 19" from 22" for the sup to be on full time and the velocities I got today all looked pretty darn good :).I had given the sensor I had borrowed for my ced m2 back as I had ordered a replacement the other day but it hasn't turned up yet so I'll do it all again next week but with the ced m2 as well to hopefully conform that I've got the superchrono sorted :thumbsup:
As a side note I didn't take any notice of the set up instructions for it this time which seemed to help :ORLY::thumbsup:
Sounds promising? Sounds just like a few teething problems. Took a few goes to get my CED2 to work right as well.
It read full the other day, halfway thru load testing and I had to drive back into town (25km) to read the friggin instructions on how to clear the memory. Got all set up the next day to find I left my 2 scopes in town so had to go back and get them! Must be getting old.
BUMP. Just thought I'd put this back into view, I'm keen to find out if the people who have one these chronies are still happy/sad with them, and any fresh comments would be welcome :)
Potential customer on the prowl. . . . . ;)
I smashed my ON/OFF button, but they replaced it free of charge. Had them send a replacement to a guy up north (further north) as he is shooting my 338LM/powder combo and I wanted to see what it did at lower temperatures. I'll get mine back in April.
I have descovered that as soon as the battery life gets down to 3 bars it dosnt like turning on.Sent my first one back and got a replacement one thinking it was a fault but the replacement one does the same and have been waiting for a reply from them regaurding their thoughts on this as I would have thought it would work right down to the last bar.
To be honest I'm not overly impressed and proberly wont use mine again now I have got a replacement sensor for my CED M2.
ive found that even tho it says to use alkaline batteries which i havent yet
the old standard batteries dont last very well suppose i should get some alkaline ones i guess
Alkaline is standard isn't it?
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